Rick Brewster Posted December 2, 2008 Posted December 2, 2008 I'm mostly trying to determine how many users are still sticking with Windows XP SP2 for whatever reason, as opposed to upgrading to Windows XP SP3. One thing I am considering is bumping up the minimum requirement to XP SP3. This would greatly simplify parts of the Paint.NET installer, and would also reduce the download size. If you are still using XP SP2, please reply to this thread and tell me why you haven't installed XP SP3 yet! Getting this information is very important. I'm not looking to make any judgements here, I'm simply on a fact-finding mission Thanks! How to find out what you have: (thanks BoltBait) "Find your "My Computer" icon (either on your desktop or in your start menu), right-click on it and choose "Properties" from the menu. The "General" tab has the information you seek." Quote The Paint.NET Blog: https://blog.getpaint.net/ Donations are always appreciated! https://www.getpaint.net/donate.html
Simon Brown Posted December 2, 2008 Posted December 2, 2008 Out of interest, why are you asking forum users what their OS is rather than reading the user agents of download page visitors? Quote
Rick Brewster Posted December 2, 2008 Author Posted December 2, 2008 I will look at that as well, but it does not tell the whole story. Are people refraining from upgrading to SP3 for a specific reason, or just because they don't have auto-updates turned on, or what? Maybe they haven't had the time for it? Maybe they're at a company with 10,000 seats and SP3 hasn't been deployed yet, etc. etc. I just want to know what various reasons people have for sticking with SP2, whether they are emotional, logistical, forgetful, or otherwise. Quote The Paint.NET Blog: https://blog.getpaint.net/ Donations are always appreciated! https://www.getpaint.net/donate.html
BoltBait Posted December 2, 2008 Posted December 2, 2008 You misspelled your thread title. BTW, I use Microsoft Windows Server 2003 R2 Enterprise Edition Service Pack 2. Quote Download: BoltBait's Plugin Pack | CodeLab | and a Free Computer Dominos Game
david.atwell Posted December 2, 2008 Posted December 2, 2008 I'm still on SP2, but only because I haven't had time to upgrade yet. Once finals are done (next week or so), I'll let the updater do its deal. Quote The Doctor: There was a goblin, or a trickster, or a warrior... A nameless, terrible thing, soaked in the blood of a billion galaxies. The most feared being in all the cosmos. And nothing could stop it, or hold it, or reason with it. One day it would just drop out of the sky and tear down your world.Amy: But how did it end up in there?The Doctor: You know fairy tales. A good wizard tricked it.River Song: I hate good wizards in fairy tales; they always turn out to be him.
oma Posted December 2, 2008 Posted December 2, 2008 tell me how to figure out if I'm on xp2 or xp3 please and I'll answere this question . At least I know its xp. ciao OMA Quote My Deviant Art Gallery Oma's Paint.Net gallery
BoltBait Posted December 2, 2008 Posted December 2, 2008 tell me how to figure out if I'm on xp2 or xp3 please and I'll answere this question . At least I know its xp. ciao OMA Find your "My Computer" icon (either on your desktop or in your start menu), right-click on it and choose "Properties" from the menu. The "General" tab has the information you seek. Quote Download: BoltBait's Plugin Pack | CodeLab | and a Free Computer Dominos Game
oma Posted December 2, 2008 Posted December 2, 2008 thanks found it under systems not by right cliking start. I've Microsoft windows xp home edition version 2002 service pack 3 I'm guessing I'm going to be ok for Ricks updates. now I better go back and enter the info on the poll. ciao thanks OMA Quote My Deviant Art Gallery Oma's Paint.Net gallery
Ego Eram Reputo Posted December 2, 2008 Posted December 2, 2008 XP SP2 and not SP3 because I'm on a very slow rural dial-up connection. I do have auto-update turned on, so it's possible that SP3 is being drip fed to me. At 70mb it may take a while...., [You wouldn't believe how difficult it is to get 3.5 NET Framework installed in these circumstances. But that's another issue...,] This weekend may change things as I'm going to try download a number of items (at a different location & speed). SP3 and 3.5 NET included. If they can be slapped onto a DVD rather than installed from a bootstrapper then I'm good-to-go! Quote ebook: Mastering Paint.NET | resources: Plugin Index | Stereogram Tut | proud supporter of Codelab plugins: EER's Plugin Pack | Planetoid | StickMan | WhichSymbol+ | Dr Scott's Markup Renderer | CSV Filetype | dwarf horde plugins: Plugin Browser | ShapeMaker
Goonfella Posted December 2, 2008 Posted December 2, 2008 I`m using Vista Home Basic SP1 . I`d be interested to know what difference it makes having Vista instead of XP (if any) in the same way that it makes a difference whether you have SP2 or SP3 for XP. Quote Please feel free to visit my Gallery on PDNFans And my Alternatives to PDN
Rick Brewster Posted December 2, 2008 Author Posted December 2, 2008 I`m using Vista Home Basic SP1 . I`d be interested to know what difference it makes having Vista instead of XP (if any) in the same way that it makes a difference whether you have SP2 or SP3 for XP. For this poll, and for Paint.NET, it's not relevant in that way. Both XP SP3 and Vista SP1 have certain components built-in that XP SP2 does not (but they can be installed just fine on XP SP2). These components are required by Paint.NET. If the minimum for Paint.NET is bumped to XP SP3, I can reduce the download size, and simplify the code in my installer. Quote The Paint.NET Blog: https://blog.getpaint.net/ Donations are always appreciated! https://www.getpaint.net/donate.html
Goonfella Posted December 2, 2008 Posted December 2, 2008 Thanks. That was a the quickest reply I`ve ever had to a post! Quote Please feel free to visit my Gallery on PDNFans And my Alternatives to PDN
Rick Brewster Posted December 2, 2008 Author Posted December 2, 2008 This weekend may change things as I'm going to try download a number of items (at a different location & speed). SP3 and 3.5 NET included. If they can be slapped onto a DVD rather than installed from a bootstrapper then I'm good-to-go! Here's what you want: XP SP3 -- http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/deta ... laylang=en .NET 3.5 SP1 -- http://download.microsoft.com/download/ ... etfx35.exe Both should fit onto one CD. Quote The Paint.NET Blog: https://blog.getpaint.net/ Donations are always appreciated! https://www.getpaint.net/donate.html
Bob Posted December 2, 2008 Posted December 2, 2008 If they can be slapped onto a DVD rather than installed from a bootstrapper then I'm good-to-go! You can order Service Pack CDs from Microsoft. I got SP2 that way for free. I looked for SP3, but it costs this time. 8$ or something. And I've Vista here, but my mother still have the old XP at her's, updated to SP3 by the wire Quote No. Way. I've just seen Bob. And... *poof!*—just like that—he disappears into the mist again. ~Helio
AmazeMe Posted December 3, 2008 Posted December 3, 2008 [How to find out what you have: (thanks BoltBait) "Find your "My Computer" icon (either on your desktop or in your start menu), right-click on it and choose "Properties" from the menu. The "General" tab has the information you seek."] Sorry but this does not tell me anything - It's just a General tab of very basic info and says nothing about what service pack is installed. Now I do know that SP2 is in there as I remember the update so I'm going to click on the SP2 and vote. If SP3 has a price tag then it won't come my any time soon - being unemployed has a lot to do with that Quote
oma Posted December 3, 2008 Posted December 3, 2008 I actually found my info under control panel and settings general tab. Quote My Deviant Art Gallery Oma's Paint.Net gallery
pyrochild Posted December 3, 2008 Posted December 3, 2008 Primary: Vista Another: XP Pro SP3 Gaming: 7 tehehe Quote ambigram signature by Kemaru [i write plugins and stuff] If you like a post, upvote it!
Rick Brewster Posted December 3, 2008 Author Posted December 3, 2008 Sorry but this does not tell me anything - It's just a General tab of very basic info and says nothing about what service pack is installed.Now I do know that SP2 is in there as I remember the update so I'm going to click on the SP2 and vote. If SP3 has a price tag then it won't come my any time soon - being unemployed has a lot to do with that Umm, SP3 is free ... it's a regular Windows Update. It just happens to be really big. Quote The Paint.NET Blog: https://blog.getpaint.net/ Donations are always appreciated! https://www.getpaint.net/donate.html
rorrison Posted December 3, 2008 Posted December 3, 2008 I'm responsible for 20+ PCs in the office. Some I've upgraded to SP3, some are still at SP2. I'm paranoid about service pack upgrades, since installing SP1 once failed and required a full re-install, and one of my recent SP3 upgrades didn't come back up after its automatic reboot (though it did after a subsequent manual reboot). I'll only apply a service pack if a) the user of the PC is out of the office for the day and I'll have time during the day to sort out any problems possibly including a full reinstall. I have no objection to SP3, the only delay is having time to allocate, and indeed if you require SP3 for Paint.NET I'll probably push myself a bit harder to get the upgrades done. (I would like to make it clear that those two incidents are the only two problems I've had with XP service pack upgrades out of perhaps 40, and I don't consider them representative. The problems I've had aren't the reason I don't upgrade, it's planning the time to deal with problems if they do happen.) Quote
Samus Aran Posted December 3, 2008 Posted December 3, 2008 I still use SP2, because I don't know where to get a CD of it, and because my Internet connection is way too slow to download it. (14 kb/s download) Quote
Bob Posted December 3, 2008 Posted December 3, 2008 If SP3 has a price tag then it won't come my any time soon I think I should stop posting, it confuses people more than anything else. Quote No. Way. I've just seen Bob. And... *poof!*—just like that—he disappears into the mist again. ~Helio
Dengel Posted December 3, 2008 Posted December 3, 2008 Windows Vista on laptop, when i get my desk computer from reformat back its gonna be Windows XP SP3 Quote | My dA | My PDN Stuff |
PaulvdLoo Posted December 3, 2008 Posted December 3, 2008 SP 3 did not appear as an automatic update on my system! And I hear more people are having this issue... So, after reading your blog I decided to do a manual SP 3 install. The auto reboot of the installer hung my system, but after a hard reset (and two hours later...) things were finally up and running... Quote
Simon Brown Posted December 3, 2008 Posted December 3, 2008 Both XP SP3 and Vista SP1 have certain components built-in that XP SP2 does not (but they can be installed just fine on XP SP2). These components are required by Paint.NET. If the minimum for Paint.NET is bumped to XP SP3, I can reduce the download size, and simplify the code in my installer. Would it be possible to have Paint.NET download these components based on what SP the user has installed? Quote
R3VENGE Posted December 3, 2008 Posted December 3, 2008 sp2 because when i tried to install sp3 it crashed and it had taken ages already then it crashed and then i had to reinstall sp2 which took ages again Quote psn id: R3V-fiR3
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