Rick Brewster Posted April 16, 2007 Share Posted April 16, 2007 ( Cross posted from my blog: http://blogs.msdn.com/rickbrew/ ) Another month, and another Paint.NET update is on the way! By now you may have noticed this trend. We have decided that monthly updates are going to be the best way for us to deliver some of the small features we've been wanting to ship for a long time, but just haven't had (or taken) the time to do so. Monthly updates of the "0.01" scale involve a lot less work than a full scale 0.1 or 1.0 update. This will allow us to focus on these smaller features while designing and planning for v4.00. So, what's coming in v3.07? I'll tell you! * The Help / Documentation is being moved online. It will no longer be part of what you download. Doing this reduces the size of the download from 4.5MB all the way down to 1.2 MB. This will enable you to download Paint.NET about 3.7 times faster! Dial-up users will no doubt appreciate this.When you click the Help -> Help Contents menu item, it will launch a web page that will have the same content as before. This will also enable us to add a simple Search box to the help file, which is something that has been requested a few times.* We will not be releasing the "Full" installer anymore. This is the installer that bundles the .NET Framework with the installer, resulting in a 50+ MB download. Yugh. I think enough people have .NET 2.0 installed by now that this isn't really an issue. If there is enough demand to bring this back though, we will of course consider it. An upcoming release will bump the requirement up to .NET 3.0, and at that point we will make available a "full" installer via the auto-updater. But even then we will only be packaging the "bootstrapper" for .NET 3.0 which is only 2.8mb. Its job is to download and then install the necessary installation files for you. If we included the full .NET 3.0 packages, both 32- and 64-bit, it would add 100 MB to the download.* The Line/Curve tool is being enhanced to allow you to draw arrow heads. You can also set the line to be drawn with a few different dashed and dotted styles. You can set these options in the toolbar, and there are also keyboard shortcuts to cycle them (comma, period, and forward-slash).* When an image has unsaved changes, its thumbnail in the upper right corner of the Paint.NET window will have a little orange asterisk. This is something I really wanted for the big v3.0 release, but time and energy ran out and it just had to be punted. But it's here now! Not exactly something to write an epic poem about, but it's another nice touch. It will allow you to see at a glance which images still need to be saved.* The Save Configuration dialog will now allow you to maximize it, and it will also remember its location and size. I personally have considered this to be a nuisance in the past, where everytime I went to save a JPG or GIF, I would have to reposition and re-size the darn window. Well, now it's a bit smarter about it, and it's about time!* There are some bug fixes, as usual. One thing that people have reported is that actions like Crop or Rotate Image reset the layer selection to the bottom layer. This is being fixed. There are also some issues that have come up regarding the new Open/Save dialogs in Vista, and I will be fixing those as well. The dialogs in Vista aren't buggy, but our use of them was incomplete and you couldn't open files from certain sources, for instance. Paint.NET v3.07 is currently scheduled to be released at the end of this month, or in early May. Quote The Paint.NET Blog: https://blog.getpaint.net/ Donations are always appreciated! https://www.getpaint.net/donate.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JELP Posted April 16, 2007 Share Posted April 16, 2007 Hah, nice. I love the 'unsaved changes' asterisk. It's coming out soon, hopefully. -JELP Quote [img]http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i284/JELP/PDN/StuddedSig.png[/img] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usedHONDA Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 That's gonna be cool! I can't wait! Quote "The greatest thing about the Internet is that you can write anything you want and give it a false source." ~Ezra Pound twtr | dA | tmblr | yt | fb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 Do you plan to "polish" a bit the not-saved-star? Quote No. Way. I've just seen Bob. And... *poof!*—just like that—he disappears into the mist again. ~Helio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireFly Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 The arrows and dashed lines is what I believe will be the most useful (for me). Lots of help when making up diagrams for science! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Brewster Posted April 17, 2007 Author Share Posted April 17, 2007 Do you plan to "polish" a bit the not-saved-star? It looks fine to me ... Quote The Paint.NET Blog: https://blog.getpaint.net/ Donations are always appreciated! https://www.getpaint.net/donate.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myrddin Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 * The Save Configuration dialog will now allow you to maximize it, and it will also remember its location and size. Will this also be applied to the Open dialogue? I know it just says Save but it could be useful for the Open dialogue too. Quote How to Save Your Images under Different File Types My dA Gallery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squ1rrel Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 nice! and dont forget the icons for the forum 8) :pdn: 4 ever Quote visit my flickr account Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 Will this also be applied to the Open dialogue? It's just the JPEG one, with a preview. edit @Rick: I'm not fond of the white "border" of the star. My 2 cents. Quote No. Way. I've just seen Bob. And... *poof!*—just like that—he disappears into the mist again. ~Helio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kokodom Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 * The Help / Documentation is being moved online. It will no longer be part of what you download. Doing this reduces the size of the download from 4.5MB all the way down to 1.2 MB. This will enable you to download Paint.NET about 3.7 times faster! Dial-up users will no doubt appreciate this. Rick, I feel that the Help/Documentation should remain as part of the download. Some of us can't be online every time we want to use Paint! Or else, have it online and have a downloadable Documentation pack that can be installed and linked to the Help menu in the application. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Brewster Posted April 17, 2007 Author Share Posted April 17, 2007 Some of us can't be online every time we want to use Paint! Right, but you aren't going to be using the help file every time you want to use Paint.NET. However, your vote has been tallied, so to speak. Quote The Paint.NET Blog: https://blog.getpaint.net/ Donations are always appreciated! https://www.getpaint.net/donate.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usedHONDA Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 Maybe you should make the help file available as a separate download. BTW, I think you should change the look of the asterisk, too. I'll post my version in a while... Quote "The greatest thing about the Internet is that you can write anything you want and give it a false source." ~Ezra Pound twtr | dA | tmblr | yt | fb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 UH, reread the whole topic. Quote No. Way. I've just seen Bob. And... *poof!*—just like that—he disappears into the mist again. ~Helio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usedHONDA Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 *reread* Well, in that case I second that, kokodom. Here's my version (I also saved it as an ico): I'm going to be doing this to all of my screenshots from now on. Quote "The greatest thing about the Internet is that you can write anything you want and give it a false source." ~Ezra Pound twtr | dA | tmblr | yt | fb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Brewster Posted April 17, 2007 Author Share Posted April 17, 2007 Will this also be applied to the Open dialogue? I know it just says Save but it could be useful for the Open dialogue too. There are 3 dialogs: 1) Open -- this is where you choose which files to open 2) Save -- this is where you choose the file name and location to save with 3) Save Configuration -- this is where you configure the options for the file type (1) and (2) behave as per whatever Windows feels like doing. (3) is all Paint.NET code and is what I am referring to above. Quote The Paint.NET Blog: https://blog.getpaint.net/ Donations are always appreciated! https://www.getpaint.net/donate.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myrddin Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 Ah right, thanks Rick. Quote How to Save Your Images under Different File Types My dA Gallery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sagedavis Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 The idea of not downloading the help file with the installer is pretty cool. Having a fully online help system, allows for updates and changes to arrata. I do however see an issue with that (on my end). I do a lot of traveling, and a lot of work outside of my home. I do not always have access to the net, but, I do use the help system whenever I need it. Would there be a possibility of creating, perhaps a pdf, or chm version of the help system? This way we could choose to download it or to simply connect to the net? This would be helpful. All the advancements look great. Thanks Quote When in doubt, Try it out. I made this sig file using http://www.anim8or.com and making all of the textures with http://www.getpaint.net I love freeware. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 If you really, really want your own copy. There are programs around that can download and save a copy of an entire website. It must be possible to make such a program download, and save a copy of the help file. http://www.httrack.com/ But be careful. If used wrong, this program will try to fill your hard drive with the entire internet. (Why I seldom use it.) :shock: And you will sooner or later have an outdated version of the help files on your computer. Quote My DA: http://leif-j.deviantart.com/ -------------- Some people seek justice so persistent, that they will do great injustice themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Brewster Posted April 17, 2007 Author Share Posted April 17, 2007 Like I said, if there is enough demand than I see no problem with releasing the help file as a separate download. I just don't want everyone rushing in to download it going, "Yay I have the full version!", because that's just not the point. Quote The Paint.NET Blog: https://blog.getpaint.net/ Donations are always appreciated! https://www.getpaint.net/donate.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usedHONDA Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 ...a pdf version... Bah! PDFs are the bulkiest file type ever devised! Quote "The greatest thing about the Internet is that you can write anything you want and give it a false source." ~Ezra Pound twtr | dA | tmblr | yt | fb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 An on-line version has the advantage of always being up to date. I go for the on-line version. Quote My DA: http://leif-j.deviantart.com/ -------------- Some people seek justice so persistent, that they will do great injustice themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Picc84 Posted April 18, 2007 Share Posted April 18, 2007 Awesome! I'm excited! Hey, I ment to ask you about this... Is there any way to (through your coding, not my money) to make the program run faster under HUGE images? (1500+)? not saying its needed, just saying it'd be nice to have some optimization. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Brewster Posted April 18, 2007 Author Share Posted April 18, 2007 "1500+" ? You mean 1500 KB JPEG, or 1500 pixels, or ... ? I'm looking at many things for version 4.00*, and am hoping to solve many long standing architectural, and thus performance, limitations of Paint.NET. * Also remember that 4.00 is currently only in the preliminary stages. No code has been written for it, everything is subject to change, and please do not pester me about it ... Quote The Paint.NET Blog: https://blog.getpaint.net/ Donations are always appreciated! https://www.getpaint.net/donate.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Picc84 Posted April 18, 2007 Share Posted April 18, 2007 Why would we pester you about 4.0, when your updating at a rate of .02:1month rate (not that i have a problem) but to here this, makes me happy... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helio Posted April 18, 2007 Share Posted April 18, 2007 But be careful. If used wrong, this program will try to fill your hard drive with the entire internet. (Why I seldom use it.) :shock: That reminds me of something.... Ah, yes! Download the internet here! Back on topic, thanks Rick, especially for the JPG save dialog update. Quote v An excellent open–source strategy game—highly recommended. "I wish I had never been born," she said. "What are we born for?" "For infinite happiness," said the Spirit. "You can step out into it at any moment..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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