Fishbowl444 Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 Hi, my name is Fishbowl444 and I sprite for my own games and project games for my friends. I have been using Paint.NET for about a half a year and I love it. I use it for simplicity versus GIMP. Although the efficiency of Paint.Net is great, I dislike using it for general spriting, but would like to move off of the plain MS Paint (XP Version) The problems I have with Paint.NET is that: 1. Transparency is treated like an empty void, and not like a color. 2. When I cut something, a space of transparency appears (not the secondary color) Are there any plug-ins that could help me out? Are there any plug-ins that might also be good for spriting? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ego Eram Reputo Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 Transparency is treated like that because its a lack of color. Totally transparent is thus a total lack of color. If you want a transparent area to behave like a color, just fill the transparent area with some contrasting color, do the operation you wish and then delete the color when finished. Tip: the magic wand might be useful to select the coloured area you wish to delete. Welcome to the forum! Quote ebook: Mastering Paint.NET | resources: Plugin Index | Stereogram Tut | proud supporter of Codelab plugins: EER's Plugin Pack | Planetoid | StickMan | WhichSymbol+ | Dr Scott's Markup Renderer | CSV Filetype | dwarf horde plugins: Plugin Browser | ShapeMaker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishbowl444 Posted November 20, 2008 Author Share Posted November 20, 2008 I know, I know, but it's that I am having trouble with. Paint.NET treats transparency (no color) like a void. You can't have a transparency color, apply it to a brush and start brushing transparency onto your art, you have to erase it... How can I disable transparency? (If possible) Without using layers? Another issue, is there some other bucket fill/magic wand option then contagious (lightning bolt) or global :Link: ? It bothers me. If i use contagious, it attracts all colors relatively close to the chosen color, and global attracts all colors like that one the entire page. This all is sorta helpful, just not when you are editing several different images all on one sheet... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Brown Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 You can't have a transparency color, apply it to a brush and start brushing transparency onto your art, you have to erase it... Use some random colour where you wish to erase (keeping this as primary colour) and use a plugin called "color to alpha" (search for it) to change areas of this colour to transparent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ego Eram Reputo Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 You can't have a transparency color, apply it to a brush and start brushing transparency onto your art, you have to erase it... I'm not sure I'm getting what you're after. You want to make part of your image transparent, but keep the image? What would show through if you were to make a part transparent? Do you have a background you'd like to show through? Could you show us a picture & walk me through what you want to achieve? Oh, and it's continuous :wink: If the wand or fill is bleeding into surrounding areas, lower the threshold percentage and it will behave nicer. A zero tolerance means it will only fill/select the color of the pixel you click on. Quote ebook: Mastering Paint.NET | resources: Plugin Index | Stereogram Tut | proud supporter of Codelab plugins: EER's Plugin Pack | Planetoid | StickMan | WhichSymbol+ | Dr Scott's Markup Renderer | CSV Filetype | dwarf horde plugins: Plugin Browser | ShapeMaker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david.atwell Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 Actually, it's contiguous. :-P Contagious and continuous are different things. Varying degrees of close to what you really meant, though. Quote  The Doctor: There was a goblin, or a trickster, or a warrior... A nameless, terrible thing, soaked in the blood of a billion galaxies. The most feared being in all the cosmos. And nothing could stop it, or hold it, or reason with it. One day it would just drop out of the sky and tear down your world.Amy: But how did it end up in there?The Doctor: You know fairy tales. A good wizard tricked it.River Song: I hate good wizards in fairy tales; they always turn out to be him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishbowl444 Posted November 20, 2008 Author Share Posted November 20, 2008 What I'm getting after is either there is something that might make transparency act like an actual color, or an entirely new thought, completely devoid transparency from even happening. 2 ideas, you mixed them together... And, how exactly might I do that with the wand? You can't have a transparency color, apply it to a brush and start brushing transparency onto your art, you have to erase it... Use some random colour where you wish to erase (keeping this as primary colour) and use a plugin called "color to alpha" (search for it) to change areas of this colour to transparent. Interesting... But not really what I'm looking for... I know I misread the function... Leave my mistake to die >_< Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aethec Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 It's possible to brush with transparency :wink: In the paintbrush options, there sould be a :NormalBlending: ...Click on it and change that to :OverwriteBlending: . Now if you brush with a transparent color, it works :wink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishbowl444 Posted November 21, 2008 Author Share Posted November 21, 2008 I meant paint without any color at all... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blooper Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 I'm almost sure we can give you an answer to your question. But I, as do other people, have trouble understanding what you want. Quote http://synthastic.deviantart.com http://soundcloud.com/siderealenterprise Lockerz invites are available, PM me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishbowl444 Posted November 23, 2008 Author Share Posted November 23, 2008 ... Is there any way to stop transparency from happening? When you erase, it paints the secondary color? Anything? Btw, I kinda get the feeling you all think I'm a PDN Newbie... I'm not... >_< Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharp Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 He wants to be able to have a transparent color selected, and be able to brush that transparent color over a opaque color. For example, there is a white pixel and he wants to color it semi transparent white. If he has a semi transparent white selected, it will just add that color to what's already there. Quote [Glass Ball Tutorial] [My Gallery] [starscape Tutorial] [My Sig Tutorial] [My dA] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Man Dan Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 Paint.NET treats transparency (no color) like a void. You can't have a transparency color, apply it to a brush and start brushing transparency onto your art, you have to erase it... As Aethec already stated, it is possible to paint with transparency as a color. Just choose your tool (Pencil, I assume), and click this button: The default behavior is transparency blending. Using this method, when you paint with black at 50% opacity it paints 50% transparent black and adds 50% to the opacity of the pixel. If the pixel is already at full opacity, it can't get any more opaque, so the transparency level doesn't change. The other behavior is transparency overwrite. This method paints with the color and sets the opacity to whatever the opacity level for the currently selected color is. To paint with full transparency, set the mode to Overwrite click the [More >>] button on the color window and drop the Alpha slider to 0, and paint away. I meant paint without any color at all... The above method is the way to do that. Transparency - full transparency - is no color at all. It doesn't matter what RGB is set - if the transparency is set at 0, it will be completely invisible. Is there any way to stop transparency from happening?When you erase, it paints the secondary color? Anything? But now this idea is something completely different, or it sounds like it, anyway. Are you saying you want it to paint the secondary color instead of removing the color altogether when you erase? If so, the Paintbrush ( ) and Pencil ( ) tools have a feature where you can paint with the secondary color directly. To paint with the Secondary color, just use the right mouse button instead of the left. Btw, I kinda get the feeling you all think I'm a PDN Newbie... I'm not... >_< No, it's just that we simply cannot seem to work out what you're getting at. From my viewpoint, it looks like both of your questions have been answered, but you seem to disagree, which means either I am not understanding what your desired final result is, or you're not understanding the alternatives that have been suggested. Rest assured, we really are trying to help you. No need for the angry eyes. Quote I am not a mechanism, I am part of the resistance; I am an organism, an animal, a creature, I am a beast. ~ Becoming the Archetype Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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