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I cannot see all my plugins because wide screen.  Please fix so hover loads view in boxes of 30 - 40 icon/word lines at a time, right to left not up and down.  I would like to see them all at once.  Mouse wheel scrolling is not working.  I can see the up arrow and down arrow in the list but it does nothing when I move my mouse wheel.  I can mouse-left-click the arrows and scroll works - but my eyesight not so good and the tiny arrows hard to grab.  Would like panels that opened up to the right all of them so I can look at all options at once.  And bigger arrows please so easy to see and easy to grab. Ty. 

 

I would like to see this:

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But what I see now is this:

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This is a fundemental limitation of WinForms, the UI framework that Paint.NET is built on. This is unlikely to see a fix for many, many years. I'd like to convert Paint.NET to a custom UI framework of my own engineering, but that's just a very, very long ways out.

 

Until then, I'd suggest getting comfortable with using the keyboard. This can really speed things up.

 

For instance, Alt+C opens the Effects menu. And then D should jump to Distort. And then if you press T it should jump to the first plugin that starts with T. You can then use the arrow keys for fine-grained navigation after that. (do Page Up and Page Down work? Home? End? I don't have a bazillion plugins to test at the moment ...)

 

In addition, it's also a good idea to remove any plugins that you're not using. Having too many will really slow down the startup performance of the app, and is known to cause stability problems. They actually take up quite a bit of memory.

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6 minutes ago, Rick Brewster said:

And then if you press T it should jump to the first plugin that starts with T. You can then use the arrow keys for fine-grained navigation after that. (do Page Up and Page Down work? Home? End?

Hi @Rick Brewster

 

Only if a plugin is visible in the first list. Mine goes as far as P in the first distort list and nothing happens when hitting "T".

Page up and the rest don't do a thing either.

Maybe a usage meter on the plugins that are actually used would be more helpful to identify those that can be removed.

I've learned what I don't use on a regular basis and have moved them into a sub folder.

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Install the Plugin Browser. Now that it runs lightning fast it is very useful for managing large piles of plugins.

 

Or as Rick said, cull some unused plugins.

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4 hours ago, Rick Brewster said:

This is a fundemental limitation of WinForms, the UI framework that Paint.NET is built on. This is unlikely to see a fix for many, many years. I'd like to convert Paint.NET to a custom UI framework of my own engineering, but that's just a very, very long ways out.

Have you considered using a work-around similar to this? https://stackoverflow.com/a/13145558

 

I was just thinking about writing a MenuStrip that performs better a few days ago when I installed a few more effects and the Effects menu now takes some ~3 seconds to open. Are you doing something special when opening that menu? Iterating over all plugins every time or such? Anyways I was thinking that this current state is a bad UX because you get no immediate feedback at all, don't know whether your click even registered until a few seconds later. The menu should open instantly and display a "loading.." entry until the list can be populated with the real data.

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There's a performance fix coming in 4.0.17. The latest Windows 10 "Creators Update" caused this to take a lot longer, although there was always a bug in Paint.NET.

 

I'll take a look at that hack on SO ...

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