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Also on the homepage, at the top with the big "Yes, everyone! That means YOU!"

Added in spoiler tags to make the post a little cleaner for you. All you have to do to make this happen yourself is flip the little switch in the top left of the editor (just to the left of the eraser) and type "[spoiler]" before the crash log and "[/spoiler]" afterward.

Hit the "More Reply Options" button in the bottom right of the post. Also check out this tutorial for a more detailed explanation of how to embed instead of attach images.

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Fair enough. Thanks.

... except some things that Paint.NET 4 requires to function... Fixed that for you. The number of people affected by SP1 issues was so incredibly, ridiculously small that you have to dive several pages deep into the Google results to find the first complaint from someone it actually happened to. I commiserate with you for your problem, but you can't expect Rick to delay PDN4's release (or waste time after the fact) simply to patch it for a tiny edge case of people who are affected by this Windows 7 issue. That said, have you tried reinstalling Windows fresh and then installing the service pack? Sometimes that's all it takes. Additionally, you could download a copy of Windows 7 that includes the service pack and install it fresh on your machine. There are all sorts of ways that you could fix your machine rather than begging the developer to cater to your edge problem.

In this case, it's because one guy works on the project alone and must decide between adding little-used functionality and actually releasing a product. He had to rewrite a lot of Paint.NET from scratch for PDN4, so not everything has made it back in yet.

You probably won't for a little while. PDN4 has only been out for 2 weeks and most troubleshooting happens on this forum. There have been crash issues, most of which are quickly being sorted out. Rick is working on a 4.0.1 release that will clean up a lot of those edge cases.

You should just update to Windows 7 SP1. Holding back is just opening you up to viruses, computer hijacking, being used for DDoS attacks, the works. Please update. Additionally, we cannot support any versions of Paint.NET prior to version 4.0, which requires SP1. If you note the forum rules, you'll see that asking about previous versions is not allowed.

You know, I read an article on it a while back, but now I can't find it. I'll let you know if I track it down. Painfully so.

Without including the original, it's hard to know what is wrong with the edit...

Up to you. But keep in mind, as Rick noted above, it will no longer be supported on this forum.

Nice, thanks for reporting back! If you'll post before/after images, sounds like it might be worthy of promotion to Mini-Tut status.

BikeHelmet, bear in mind that as a computer repair professional you're dealing with people at the lowest level of computer understanding. Remember, Google did months of focus testing and quality assurance before changing the shade of blue they use by just a few hues. They did years of testing and review before editing their logo by two pixels. They have data that suggests that people prefer the screen real estate gains inherent in putting everything on one line, and they have data that proves that they don't lose users from switching it from a wrench (inexact, since they use it for not only settings but actions and diagnostics as well) to a "hamburger" (more correct for its final function). They have hundreds of thousands of data and diagnostic points, interaction studies, visual heat maps, hands-on studies, and market research crossing market segments, age groups, cultural demographics and locations. All you have are anecdotal stories from several dozen people who are already frustratedly having trouble with their computers anyway and want nothing more than to just complain. With Firefox, you may have more of a point, but speaking as someone with friends working at Mozilla, the hundreds of changes that happen are sent through so many quality checkpoints that work they accomplish in July often won't be seen in a final end-user product until December, so it's not exactly a fast-and-dirty job. So your customers, while understandably frustrated (and frustrating, I've worked IT also), don't necessarily represent an accurate bellwether of public sentiment.

Sorry, mind reader's in the shop for repair on the ventral slide-frunkle quantum mapulator. You'll have to be a little more specific. :-)

That's called "hamburger menus," and is actually quite well accepted as good interface design. Do you actually have a point, or are you just griping?

Agreed, good to have you back. Man, 4.0 is bringing all sorts of the old crowd out of the woodwork.

We actually rent the forum software from a company called IPB. You'll have to take it up with them.

A plugin manager is a highly-desired feature, yes.

You can also hit "start", type "charmap.exe" and press enter. Then you can copy those entities out if you don't remember the ASCII code.

Thanks!

It has been tried, to no avail.

It's actually not enough. We delete several spam accounts a day, even with three layers of spam blocking.

The bulk processor is actually a third-party program and completely unsupported on this forum. Glad you found something that can handle the task, though; We usually recommend IrfanView for this sort of thing, if you'd like another option.

I read these tuts, and I am quite impressed by the tut quality and result. Keep 'em coming! I am moving this to "Creations", though, because - well, in the most grandiose sense - that's what this is. Thanks!