david.atwell

Option is not Convention.

This is the forum for requests and suggestions. Rick (the developer) reads nearly every post on this board.

EER went through all the plugins and placed a note in red at the top of the first thread for every plugin incompatible with PDN4. If you find that it needs one, let me know and I'll add it.

Wow, you're really bitter about this...

Actually, yes: Evanolds' Octagonal/Quad Reshape Matte: http://forums.getpaint.net/index.php?/topic/2642-octagonalquad-reshapematte/ (also available as part of this pack: http://forums.getpaint.net/index.php?showtopic=13003 ) Pyrochild's Grid Warp: http://forums.getpaint.net/index.php?/topic/25327-grid-warp/ The native Rotate/Zoom tool: http://www.getpaint.net/doc/latest/RotateZoom.html dpy's Perspective effect: http://forums.getpaint.net/index.php?/topic/16197-perspective-effect-v20-update-030510/ Let us know if these help!

Users already have the option to check for beta versions when they check for updates from within the program. I don't know what else you think would be possible to do. Flashing banner at the top of their Paint.NET screen? Email in their personal account that they never gave? Default canvas automatically has "Paint.NET 5 Beta Now Available!!!!" on it? All of that would be invasive and creepy. Besides, one of your premises is that v4 is fundamentally flawed, or that it wouldn't have been released with just a few more beta testers, and that is just flat-out not true. Thousands of people* tried the beta, both "power users" and casual users alike. The other premise is that anyone other than "hard core users" would have tried it if it were offered to them, and that's just not true. If you aren't on this forum, you're not likely to care about the beta. Finally, it took PDN4 half a decade to finish. 3.0 was out for almost that long before any sort of alpha or beta testing for 4.0 was even announced. You are R-E-A-L-L-Y jumping the gun here. *My quick estimation

No, there is a command called Free Transform. http://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop/using/transforming-objects.html#id_5772 << I'm pretty sure this is what the OP meant, Humility.

Two new mini-tuts grace our board today! First, Cc4FH pulls in her second mini-tut showing us how to make transparent layer "windows", while Humility becomes our first self-answerer to be promoted to mini-tut status with an intriguing method to digitally "ink" a pencil drawing. Enjoy!

Mini-Tut #9 Digitally Inking a Pencil Drawing by Humility, in response to Humility Original thread: Help compensating for my new scanner's lack of auto cleanup. Original post: 412702

Mini-Tut #8 Transparent Layer "Windows" by Cc4FuzzyHuggles, in response to WayMoreConfused Original thread: How do I make a background only visible through a certain part of a photo? Original post: 413094

Awesome. Updated and unpinned.

It is possible, but per the rules we can neither provide the program nor support it if you do. I recommend you try Cc4FH's recommendation above. Incidentally, please check the rules. For several reasons, we don't allow people to request old versions here. Apologies, but I'll have to close the thread. Best of luck.

It isn't out yet, but should be out very soon. It's going through a sort of "accelerated beta" right now.

For reference, here is an example of a perfectly respectful complaint: We understand the frustration here, and we'd love to help try and sort it out. His first post was a bit condescending, but he turned it around for the second one. How about this? Excellently well-written post. And do you see? It's a bug report! In fact, the troubleshooting forum has 3,067 examples proving that this couldn't be further from the truth. Your ignorance is showing, Araragi.

Split out the off-topic part to its own thread, here: http://forums.getpaint.net/index.php?/topic/29084-old-version-demands-and-disrespect/#entry413044 But the point still remains: From now on, any disrespectful behavior I see will be met with an immediate warn for the user. If you need help, ask for help respectfully. If you want to tear down the freely-given work of others, take your self-righteous first-world problems and go suck a lemon. If you're having bugs or other problems with the program, they go here. We'd love to help. If you have a legitimate question about how to do something in the new version, ask it here. We'd love to help. If you want to be entitled and complain about something, that's here. We wish you would just go away. Now, let's keep this on-topic, please.

Your post was neither of those things. It was straight-up abuse and disrespect. Had you posted honest criticism or a bug report, we would have happily helped you out. So long. Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

No, you know what? Not ok. In any part of the world. I've had it. From now on, any disrespectful behavior I see will be met with an immediate warn for the user. And I mean disrespect to anyone, not just Rick. Araragi has just received the first one. It read: Seriously. I'm sick of this. If you need help, ask for help respectfully. If you want to tear down the freely-given work of others, take your self-righteous first-world problems and go suck a lemon. ^^This, 100%. There seems to be this bizarre thought process that people who have downloaded this program have the right to gripe about every little bit of the program's functionality and design if it isn't perfectly suited to their personal use cases. And not just question them, but to demand them rudely! Who taught you people manners? Why have you no civility? I was silent for too long; now, I've had enough. All right, I'm off my soapbox. Let's get this thread back on-topic. If you're having bugs or other problems with the program, they go here. We'd love to help. If you have a legitimate question about how to do something in the new version, ask it here. We'd love to help. If you want to be entitled and complain about something, that's here. We wish you would just go away.

Yeah, and that's fine to say, but it really doesn't work itself out in practice. If people download something here, they expect to be able to get support for it here. Trust me, I've been here for eight years. It does happen.

Oh, cool. I don't personally have the problem, so I was just guessing. Fixed.

First, if you're still running version 4.0.0, upgrade to the latest version of Paint.NET (currently 4.0.1 as of this writing). It's no longer in Beta, holds the same great new features introduced in 4.0.0, and should give you great results. Head over to this page (always current) to get it. If that didn't work, the below is worth a try (though they are fixes specific to 4.0.0, they're fixes worth trying anyway). Click the "show" link to view them. If none of that works, feel free to start a troubleshooting thread with your problem and we will try to help you as best we can. Hidden Content: Having one of these issues? Try the fixes below before asking for help. Odds are it'll probably fix the problem. I promise.* Visual Artifacts, Flickering, etc. paint.net 4.0 has some great new hardware acceleration, but it doesn't work for every video card yet. If you're having flickering, strange white squares when you move the mouse, and generally things that don't look quite right, try this fix: 1. Click the Settings icon in the top-right. 2. Toggle "Hardware accelerated rendering (GPU)" off. Feeling adventurous? Head over to the paint.net 4.0 preview center and give the 4.0.1 Beta a try instead; many users have reported a fix with it. "(null)" or "BadImageFormatException" Error on Start Do you have an error that looks like this? 1. Navigate to C:\Program Files\Paint.NET (or whatever the directory where you installed the program). 2. Run the program PdnRepair.exe. 3. Restart paint.net. If you're still having issues after trying these steps and have used the site search to make sure it hasn't been solved in another thread, feel free to start a troubleshooting thread with your problem and we will try to help you as best we can. Good luck! *Not really, but I hope it will help some people.

We don't remove solved posts here. Someone else with the same issue may come along and be helped by your issue.

Okay, so the bottom line is this: the entire support staff for Paint.NET are volunteers who have real-world jobs that don't involve Paint.NET. We don't get paid anything, except Rick and the plugin authors who ask for donations. We barely have enough time to adequately support the current version of Paint.NET - if we officially released prior versions, we'd have even less time than we do right now. Trust me, nobody is getting rich off the decision to only support 4.0. That said, if you'd like to make a huge donation, I'm sure we could make some sort of arrangement. I accept large amounts of bitcoin...

Sorry, but to my knowledge Paint.NET is neither designed nor licensed for any uses like that.

Whoops, fixed.

By "very long beta", Rick is talking about a public beta that ran around nine months. Paint.NET 4 has been in production over five times longer than that, and there were many people involved in the testing of that product in those five years.