Aakanaar Posted August 17, 2007 Posted August 17, 2007 Recently, I found a tutorial on the first page (I seldom browse beyond the first page, never past the second) for grass which I liked. Someone of course revived an old thread which was against the rules, however in this case I'm glad that they did, as I'd have never thought to even look for this tutorial, but was sure glad I found it. So, as a way of keeping the much needed rule against reviving dead threads, but at the same time making it easier to browse the many good tutorials that have been lost to the ravages of time, How about making a sticky that has links to all tutorials that are usefull, and fall into the guidelines of being a good tutorial (follows the rules, is a new effect or a new way to achieve an old effect, etc..) but just didn't make it to the stickied hall of fame. This would give me something to browse, finding new tecniques that I would normally never have thought to search for originally. All at the cost of just one more sticky, and moderators having to update it every so often to add new tutorials, and remove ones that are oudated via plugins or newer tutorials. One can even try to categorize the list by some means if they wanted to. Quote
david.atwell Posted August 17, 2007 Posted August 17, 2007 There's been much discussion on the rearrangements of tuts; most people agree with you, but the mods are just very busy people with (GASP!) lives outside of PdN. Well, Rick and BoltBait do, at least...not sure about CMD. ;-) Anyway, yes, I think it would be splendid. Same with Plugins. Quote The Doctor: There was a goblin, or a trickster, or a warrior... A nameless, terrible thing, soaked in the blood of a billion galaxies. The most feared being in all the cosmos. And nothing could stop it, or hold it, or reason with it. One day it would just drop out of the sky and tear down your world.Amy: But how did it end up in there?The Doctor: You know fairy tales. A good wizard tricked it.River Song: I hate good wizards in fairy tales; they always turn out to be him.
Andrew D Posted August 17, 2007 Posted August 17, 2007 I know this works, because at the NM forums I had the same idea for all the user-made packs and tutorials, and it's successful as hell. So it'll definetely work, we just need someone to do it. Quote
Bob Posted August 17, 2007 Posted August 17, 2007 http://paintdotnet.12.forumer.com/viewt ... 4382#74382 bout the thread title: nobody likes reading stickies Quote No. Way. I've just seen Bob. And... *poof!*—just like that—he disappears into the mist again. ~Helio
david.atwell Posted August 17, 2007 Posted August 17, 2007 Well, I assume that CMD isn't reading this thread (I posted the "I'm not sure about CMD" line as a sort of test to see), and he was the only mod online at the time...so... Anyway, it was kind of discussed to death a while back. Quote The Doctor: There was a goblin, or a trickster, or a warrior... A nameless, terrible thing, soaked in the blood of a billion galaxies. The most feared being in all the cosmos. And nothing could stop it, or hold it, or reason with it. One day it would just drop out of the sky and tear down your world.Amy: But how did it end up in there?The Doctor: You know fairy tales. A good wizard tricked it.River Song: I hate good wizards in fairy tales; they always turn out to be him.
Myrddin Posted August 17, 2007 Posted August 17, 2007 If we take your suggestion of a Sticky list, then we may not need to categorise them, we could, instead, merely order them alphabetically with a one line description (example pictures would take up too much space). Any that are similar in result would list the prominent effect used. Moreover, the Moderators wouldn't really need to do anything as it could be maintained by another member of the community who has more time on their hands. Good suggestion. Anyway, dredging up old issues may not go down so well. I shall usher myself away. Quote How to Save Your Images under Different File Types My dA Gallery
Ash Posted August 17, 2007 Posted August 17, 2007 I'm still working on the tut list, I already have the plugin list on my googlepage. Quote All creations Ash + Paint.NET [ Googlepage | deviantArt | Club PDN | PDN Fan ]
Bob Posted August 17, 2007 Posted August 17, 2007 I'll add what I already said: "good tutorials" is totally subjective. What you want already exist. 3 people (Rick + mods) found the current stickies trendy/useful, but not you. No offense, but it's your problem Hope you see what I mean. @ Myr: make a list of tut with a one line description is a call to generic titles (and CGTL). Quote No. Way. I've just seen Bob. And... *poof!*—just like that—he disappears into the mist again. ~Helio
Andrew D Posted August 17, 2007 Posted August 17, 2007 I might aswell show you what it could look like, just as an example. http://community.naturalmotion.com/foru ... php?t=6016 And, well, some shameless advertising for my thread And Bob just stumped most of us....... Quote
Mr Frojo Posted August 17, 2007 Posted August 17, 2007 I said: Something like this? Theres a list of a ton of the tutorials out there, plus a description. Quote I'm still alive!
Myrddin Posted August 17, 2007 Posted August 17, 2007 @ Myr: make a list of tut with a one line description is a call to generic titles (and CGTL). And with enough of a generic fun-fest already pitched in the Q&GD we certainly don't want another in the Tutorials as well (although, skimming through it's working up to that). Quote How to Save Your Images under Different File Types My dA Gallery
Bob Posted August 17, 2007 Posted August 17, 2007 You know what would be great?? A digg-like tutorial sorting. I think that what I'll implement in my french-speaking-forum-tutorial-index-gallery-ultimate-combo-nobody-had-heard-about-yet. to kick my lazy back off> Quote No. Way. I've just seen Bob. And... *poof!*—just like that—he disappears into the mist again. ~Helio
Ben_R_R Posted August 17, 2007 Posted August 17, 2007 Every tutorial should have a poll at the top: How hard is this Tutorial? 1- Very Easy 2- Easy 3- Average 4- Hard 5- Very Hard Quote I'm finally on dA!
Yata Posted August 17, 2007 Posted August 17, 2007 Polls can be an eye sore.... I would like to hear Ricks standpoint on this. After all, he is the admin. Quote "Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former" [ dA Paint.NET Chat :: Yata on dA ]
Mr Frojo Posted August 17, 2007 Posted August 17, 2007 Yea, I dont like the poll idea. We could just go to that wikipage ive posted twice... Or someone (Ash) could post something like the wikipage on their site. Quote I'm still alive!
Aakanaar Posted August 17, 2007 Author Posted August 17, 2007 Yea, i realize that the stickies are the real good tutorials.. but I was trying to not be subjective by my term of 'good'.. Basically, what I meant was anything that followed the rules, and was either a new effect, or a new way to do an old effect.. not just another duplication of an old effect with all the same steps. (this list would also help people figgure out if a tutorial has already been posted, if they can't find the search button. redundancy i know..) As for the stickies. if they sticked every tutorial that followed the guidelines i just listed, the first three pages would be solid stickies.. Thus why doing it in a sticked thread is better. List of all the tutorials that didn't make the sticky list. And I would be happy to start a thread on the subject, but I figgured something like that would probably take a mod to "ok" it first. I didn't want to hash up any old wounds. Quote
Stephan Posted August 18, 2007 Posted August 18, 2007 Good thinking, the rules say you can't create new "official" threads... I'd like a standalone app that involves effort on two ends. On the 1 end, the tutorial creator, with easy tagging, and pasting pictures, and on the other, the end user with a simple GUI. Quote
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