Djerun Posted February 10, 2010 Share Posted February 10, 2010 Hi, I really often need to change the active layer but I normally controll my mouse with the arrow keys for more control so it's really annoying to change the active layer or the layer visibility with the mouse (because I hold the mouse in the air while moving it with the keyboard to be able to click but not moving the mouse inadvertently and after clicking somewhere inside the layer window it needs an additional click inside the drawing area to make arrow-key-mouse-control available again) I searched for shortkeys but all I can find are lists where the shortkeys for the layer menu are listed, so I was asking myself if there are any shortkeys yet and if so what they are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ego Eram Reputo Posted February 10, 2010 Share Posted February 10, 2010 That's a seriously strange way to use your mouse! I have to disagree: Changing the layer / layer visibility with the mouse is very easy. Quote ebook: Mastering Paint.NET | resources: Plugin Index | Stereogram Tut | proud supporter of Codelab plugins: EER's Plugin Pack | Planetoid | StickMan | WhichSymbol+ | Dr Scott's Markup Renderer | CSV Filetype | dwarf horde plugins: Plugin Browser | ShapeMaker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david.atwell Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 There are no such shortcuts. You may need to invest in a trackball or touchpad if you don't like using a mouse the normal way...doesn't your hand get tired? Quote The Doctor: There was a goblin, or a trickster, or a warrior... A nameless, terrible thing, soaked in the blood of a billion galaxies. The most feared being in all the cosmos. And nothing could stop it, or hold it, or reason with it. One day it would just drop out of the sky and tear down your world.Amy: But how did it end up in there?The Doctor: You know fairy tales. A good wizard tricked it.River Song: I hate good wizards in fairy tales; they always turn out to be him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sozo Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 Gaming mice also typically feature more precise control, and that may help your mouse troubles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pyrochild Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 (because I hold the mouse in the air while moving it with the keyboard to be able to click but not moving the mouse inadvertently and after clicking somewhere inside the layer window it needs an additional click inside the drawing area to make arrow-key-mouse-control available again) I have to see this. Quote ambigram signature by Kemaru [i write plugins and stuff] If you like a post, upvote it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Djerun Posted February 14, 2010 Author Share Posted February 14, 2010 (because I hold the mouse in the air while moving it with the keyboard to be able to click but not moving the mouse inadvertently and after clicking somewhere inside the layer window it needs an additional click inside the drawing area to make arrow-key-mouse-control available again) I have to see this. one hand to the arrow keys, the other to the mouse, lift the mouse, maybe turn your hand to the side and lay it down again have to disagree: Changing the layer / layer visibility with the mouse is very easy. yes but after changing the layer in any way by clicking into the layers window you can't move the mouse with the arrow keys anymor until you click at the drawing area my mouse is quite precise and other hardware wouldn't help because I'm not drawing pictures in any way (I can't draw) I'm constructing them due using the coordinates and to do it without the aroow keys I'd need to turn the mouse speed to minimum and thats quite annoying since I don't know shortkeys for changing the mouse speed in windows because while not constructing images I need a very high mouse speed. I could use the dpi-settings of my mouse to slow it down but that would make my mouse unprecise... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarkut Posted February 14, 2010 Share Posted February 14, 2010 Djerun, It would be nice to have a keyboard shortcut to change which layer is the active working layer. or the layer visibility To change visibility of the working layer: F4 + Tab + SpaceBar ( Pressing SpaceBar more than once will toggle visibility on and off.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Djerun Posted February 17, 2010 Author Share Posted February 17, 2010 thats more than nothing^^ thx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarkut Posted February 17, 2010 Share Posted February 17, 2010 Actually, if you are working with only two layers, you can shift which layer is active, too. Assuming both layers are visible to start: F4 + Tab + Spacebar + Enter + Ctrl Z This will change the working layer and leave both layers visible. You need to remember to go mouse-button-up before doing the keyboard layer change, but the mouse cursor will remain in place if you have been holding the mouse in mid-air. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ego Eram Reputo Posted February 17, 2010 Share Posted February 17, 2010 F4 + Tab + Spacebar + Enter + Ctrl Z. Doesn't that seem more work than clicking on the layer? I'd have trouble just remembering the combination Quote ebook: Mastering Paint.NET | resources: Plugin Index | Stereogram Tut | proud supporter of Codelab plugins: EER's Plugin Pack | Planetoid | StickMan | WhichSymbol+ | Dr Scott's Markup Renderer | CSV Filetype | dwarf horde plugins: Plugin Browser | ShapeMaker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarkut Posted February 17, 2010 Share Posted February 17, 2010 I'd have trouble just remembering the combination That's where tattoos come in handy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ego Eram Reputo Posted February 17, 2010 Share Posted February 17, 2010 No room left: viewtopic.php?p=313807#p313807 Quote ebook: Mastering Paint.NET | resources: Plugin Index | Stereogram Tut | proud supporter of Codelab plugins: EER's Plugin Pack | Planetoid | StickMan | WhichSymbol+ | Dr Scott's Markup Renderer | CSV Filetype | dwarf horde plugins: Plugin Browser | ShapeMaker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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