dlrush Posted September 6, 2007 Share Posted September 6, 2007 I'd love to see a plugin for performing isometric transforms of surfaces. This can be used for creating 2.5D images, pixel art, box mockups and more. It's not that hard either, could be a great project for a first time plugin author. All that is required are 3 steps - scale, skew and rotate. Here are the requirements: Iteration 1 * Top, left, right * select which face from list * Use these transforms: http://www.layersmagazine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=779 Iteration 2: (Not required) If you are fired up: * GUI with isometric cube. Mouseover the desired face to choose which transform to apply * Allow for bottom back-left and back-right also If other people could benefit from such a feature, please reply so this post gets some attention. Thanks, D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deborah Posted September 6, 2007 Share Posted September 6, 2007 Would this give us anything that our beloved Shape 3D plugin can't do? This tutorial explaining how to map faces to the 3D cube would seem to do the same thing you're asking for here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattBlackLamb Posted September 6, 2007 Share Posted September 6, 2007 Or our rotate / zoom feature? Quote dA Son, someday you will make a girl happy for a short period of time. Then she'll leave you & be with men that are ten times better than you can imagine. These men are called musicians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Man Dan Posted September 6, 2007 Share Posted September 6, 2007 The key word is "Isometric." Shape3D and Rotate / Zoom produce results in 3D Perspective form - the closer an object is, the larger it is. Isometric has no appearance of depth, but is 3D and can be shaded as such. Quote I am not a mechanism, I am part of the resistance; I am an organism, an animal, a creature, I am a beast. ~ Becoming the Archetype Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoltBait Posted September 6, 2007 Share Posted September 6, 2007 This can be used for creating ... pixel art I disagree with this statement. No self-respecting pixel artist would use anything except the pencil tool. Period. Quote Download: BoltBait's Plugin Pack | CodeLab | and a Free Computer Dominos Game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlrush Posted September 7, 2007 Author Share Posted September 7, 2007 So, i looked at Shape3D - it's very nice BTW. However, isometric projection is not rendered in true 3d space with vanishing points, real-world geometry, etc. It is an approximation, an architectural geomoetry I suppose. Also, there is no requirement for lighting, etc. Also, I installed the plugin and looked at the tutorial - which works great for cubes, but what if my shape has arbitrary dimensions? It wasn't clear how I would tackle that with shape3d. Maybe I'm missing something. Let me know. Wikipedia on Isometric Projection: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isometric_projection This covers all the nitty-gritty, variants and differences between 3D, true isometric, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Posted September 7, 2007 Share Posted September 7, 2007 The key word is "Isometric." Shape3D and Rotate / Zoom produce results in 3D Perspective form - the closer an object is, the larger it is. Isometric has no appearance of depth, but is 3D and can be shaded as such. I don't quite understand what is Isometric. But looking at the pic..I think shape3D can do this too. Quote All creations Ash + Paint.NET [ Googlepage | deviantArt | Club PDN | PDN Fan ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david.atwell Posted September 7, 2007 Share Posted September 7, 2007 Isometrics have no vanishing point. It replicates three dimensions without perspective. See here for more information. Shape3D does use perspective and vanishing point. Quote  The Doctor: There was a goblin, or a trickster, or a warrior... A nameless, terrible thing, soaked in the blood of a billion galaxies. The most feared being in all the cosmos. And nothing could stop it, or hold it, or reason with it. One day it would just drop out of the sky and tear down your world.Amy: But how did it end up in there?The Doctor: You know fairy tales. A good wizard tricked it.River Song: I hate good wizards in fairy tales; they always turn out to be him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Posted September 7, 2007 Share Posted September 7, 2007 Is this it? Done in shape3d. I don't know what's all this Isoxxxx is, I only know what I see Quote All creations Ash + Paint.NET [ Googlepage | deviantArt | Club PDN | PDN Fan ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlrush Posted September 7, 2007 Author Share Posted September 7, 2007 Ash, Can you post your settings and source image? The box is fine, but can you translate a arbitrary rectangle into the top perspective easily? D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Posted September 7, 2007 Share Posted September 7, 2007 Ash, Can you post your settings and source image? The box is fine, but can you translate a arbitrary rectangle into the top perspective easily? D There is no source image. it's just a white canvas. And I used shape3d plugin. **translate a arbitrary rectangle into the top perspective easily** what? :shock: I need to see a pic to understand. EDIT: Besides Shape3D, we can also use the Oblique plugin to do this too. Quote All creations Ash + Paint.NET [ Googlepage | deviantArt | Club PDN | PDN Fan ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barkbark00 Posted September 7, 2007 Share Posted September 7, 2007 EDIT: Besides Shape3D, we can also use the Oblique plugin to do this too. Thats exactly what my 3D Picture Cube tutorial uses... Quote  Take responsibility for your own intelligence. 😉 -Rick Brewster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlrush Posted September 7, 2007 Author Share Posted September 7, 2007 These other plugins are fine, but I really need a simple plugin for doing isometric transform, as I specified. Nothing more, nothing more... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barkbark00 Posted September 7, 2007 Share Posted September 7, 2007 Based on the image you posted it's only like a six step process.... Automating everything kinda spoils all of the fun... Quote  Take responsibility for your own intelligence. 😉 -Rick Brewster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Man Dan Posted September 7, 2007 Share Posted September 7, 2007 I did some experimenting, and it turns out Shape3D can create Isometric shapes. In the lower window of the plugin, there's a heading on the right called Projection with a Camera Angle chooser box under it. This basically sets lens angle of the camera, albeit inversely. The lower the setting, the less pronounced the perspective. Setting this to 1 creates an isometric rendering. Quote I am not a mechanism, I am part of the resistance; I am an organism, an animal, a creature, I am a beast. ~ Becoming the Archetype Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Posted September 7, 2007 Share Posted September 7, 2007 Ding ding ding Quote All creations Ash + Paint.NET [ Googlepage | deviantArt | Club PDN | PDN Fan ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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