Ziz Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 Ok, did a search on "selection canvas size" and didn't see this. PdN 3.31. Selected an area to do a copy/paste and performed said function. Clicked again to de-select. Clicked on the "New" icon to open a fresh canvas to start a second project and that new canvas was the size of my selection box on my previous canvas. So, to put numbers to it - canvas A is 800x600. Selection A is 100x200. New canvas B is created at 100x200. :?: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Like Pi Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 I'm pretty sure this behavior is intentional. PDN will mirror the size of any image on your clipboard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Ryan Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 Yes, intentional and a great feature to use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoltBait Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 The default canvas size is always set to the size of the bitmap on the clipboard. Quote Download: BoltBait's Plugin Pack | CodeLab | and a Free Computer Dominos Game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziz Posted June 20, 2008 Author Share Posted June 20, 2008 Yes, intentional and a great feature to use. So if I'm working on several projects that are the same size because I need to copy elements from one project to another, I need to keep going to Image>Canvas and re-doing the settings every time I start a new project? How is that convenient? :? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Ryan Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 You can still change the values. It just presets the values to represent you image on the clipboard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziz Posted June 20, 2008 Author Share Posted June 20, 2008 My point is, why should I have to? That seems counter-intuitive and inefficient. Maybe this could be changed with the next update? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Ryan Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 It is very intuitive. Perhaps explain how you would rather it be. Because if there is no image on the clipboard, then the default settings are 800x600. Are you saying that you're multiple images are 800x600 and you dont want those to change? Because if so, then know that not everybody uses those defaults Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziz Posted June 20, 2008 Author Share Posted June 20, 2008 Ok, forget the numbers, just look at the logic. I'm working on project A, at whatever size it is. I copy part of it and now need to paste that into new project B, which is the same size as project A. But when I hit "New", the newly created project B is the size of my selection, not the size of project A. So now I have to stop and re-size project B to the same as project A, then move the object I copied/pasted that started all this to its correct position. Now, I've worked on them some more and I need to take some section of project B and copy it into new project C, the same way I took part of A and copied it to B. Every time I create a new project, I have to stop and re-size it because of the selection I'm copying. The selection is part of the project, not the other way around. THAT'S why it's counter-intuitive and inefficient. Look at the same problem out in the real world - if I'm building a puzzle and the box says it will come out to be, say, 15" x 20" when finished, why would I start building it on a table that's only 10" x 10"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoltBait Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 I think it would be easier to change your work flow than change the Paint.NET program. Quote Download: BoltBait's Plugin Pack | CodeLab | and a Free Computer Dominos Game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziz Posted June 21, 2008 Author Share Posted June 21, 2008 When you drive to work tomorrow, try to do it by only making right turns, no lefts. See how long it takes you and how easy it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Ryan Posted June 21, 2008 Share Posted June 21, 2008 What you are requesting is telling us to drive to work only making left turns. If you want specific demensions, then kill ten seconds and type them in. That is ten seconds, considerably smaller than finding out the demensions of the image on your clipboard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helio Posted June 21, 2008 Share Posted June 21, 2008 If I may interject my input... I can see your point. That could be rather frustrating, I'm sure. If your 100x200 selection is by itself on a layer - surrounded by transparency - you could then simply select the entire canvass (all of Project A) on that layer, and copy. Then it would be exactly to the size you need it when you create Project B, C, etc. In fact, you could then simply use the keyboard shortcut [Ctrl] + [Alt] + V (Paste in to New Image). If that is not possible, and if the selected portion of Project A is needed for all consecutive Projects, then you could create a base image: Paste your selection in to a new image, positioned as you like; save it as "project-base.pdn" or whatever is convenient; open it, complete the transformations needed for whichever Project you may be working on, and save it by another name (i.e.: "project-b.pdn"). Repeat: open the original "project-base.pdn", complete all additions/transformations, save by another name. See what I mean? I'm sorry if neither of these are a solution to the frustration. This is the way Paint.NET works (so far), and one must simply work around it. Photoshop does the same thing, although preset canvasses are available. Who knows, perhaps preset canvasses are in the future of PDN?* I hope you find some way to get around it! *Do not take this as word, it may not reflect the views of Rick Brewster in any way. Quote v An excellent open–source strategy game—highly recommended.  "I wish I had never been born," she said. "What are we born for?" "For infinite happiness," said the Spirit. "You can step out into it at any moment..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Man Dan Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 Honestly, I was quite disappointed when The GIMP stopped importing the clipboard data as the new image size. Besides, when you press [Ctrl]+[N], the dialog pops up with the first Size field already selected. Type in the width, press tab, then type in the height. Just a few seconds extra - relatively painless, no? I don't mean to sound insensitive, but I think you can tell from the dearth of people backing up your position, most people like it as it is. As such, as BB said, I think it would be better for you to adjust how you use PDN than to try to force everyone else to have to adjust to how you'd like to use PDN. @Mike: If this suggestion were implemented, we could get around it with a [Ctrl]+[V] [Ctrl]+[shift]+[X]. Since the selection is created at the size of the pasted image, and stays active after pasting, a Crop to Selection command would shrink-wrap it right down. Quote I am not a mechanism, I am part of the resistance; I am an organism, an animal, a creature, I am a beast. ~ Becoming the Archetype Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziz Posted June 25, 2008 Author Share Posted June 25, 2008 What about adding something to the Canvas Size dialogue box - Default for new canvas: Selection size Standard size (with a pulldown menu of typical screen dimension combinations) User size (with boxes for height/width/resolution) That way the user can tell PdN how it should act instead of the other way around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Man Dan Posted June 28, 2008 Share Posted June 28, 2008 Well, there is a "Choose Defaults" dialog where you can set a few custom options as defaults. Perhaps this option could be added, but no promises - Rick would have to weigh in with his thoughts. Quote I am not a mechanism, I am part of the resistance; I am an organism, an animal, a creature, I am a beast. ~ Becoming the Archetype Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziz Posted June 30, 2008 Author Share Posted June 30, 2008 Where is that? New in 3.35 beta? I'm on 3.31. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Posted June 30, 2008 Share Posted June 30, 2008 Where is that? New in 3.35 beta? I'm on 3.31. http://www.getpaint.net/doc/latest/en/Toolbar.html Quote All creations Ash + Paint.NET [ Googlepage | deviantArt | Club PDN | PDN Fan ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziz Posted July 6, 2008 Author Share Posted July 6, 2008 That's the perfect spot for it, then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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