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ahh...I see. ...and looking at UserBlendOps.Generated.H.cs I begin to see why there's currently nothing in the way of HSV-dependent blend modes. PaintDotNet.Data.dll is the assembly this ends up in, correct?

Hi Rick...which file(s) have the layer blending operations? Are they inside of a larger class or module?

To do that, I'd say the easiest thing would be to select the entire "mask" layer and move it (just like you would move the entire "mask" sheet of actual paper). The transparent window will still be in the middle of the non-transparent pixels, and you'll get the effect that you want, I think.

This is a new one, as far as I can tell. I'd love to see a new "hue" blend mode, where the upper layer's hue overrides that of the layers beneath it.

You beat me to it...I was just going to recommend that. I really like pyro's newest plugin.

"Internet Oil Slick"

:shock: THANK YOU! (Yes, I'm shouting it) This seriously simplifies a lot of repetitive tasks, pyro...much appreciated.

Okay, Mr. "not too hard" Perhaps a few hints on how you made the chrome effect in that image? I'll do the tutorial for you, if you give me enough info to make a go of it...

Ash...you're a steely-eyed raster man (paraphrasing from a NASA manager's quote in the Apollo 13 days). I wish I could make my brain work that fast.

Not sure...I started doing a pseudocode version on paper today. Provided I get some free time, I might have something by late tomorrow...it'll just shuffle the screen in different-sized tiles, and it'll probably only work on rectangular selections...I'm not a plugin guru. I'll post the codelab online for others to improve, though.

Well, it wouldn't be too tough to randomly place tiled areas of the screen in other places, but Paint.NET doesn't see text as groupings of characters, just as pixels (once you've typed them and changed tools). You could get something like this to work, but only if you used a monospaced font and knew the starting location of the text and the overall size that each character takes up. Typical proportionally-spaced fonts wouldn't work, since they don't fit neatly into an evenly-spaced grid. In order for this to work, first, Paint.NET's internals would have to be rewritten to have a concept of text as some type of text "object", and then to allow for that object to be split up and the pieces manipulated individually. To make a long story short, it's not possible in the current version 3.x series, at least not for proportional fonts, and even for monospaced fonts, you'd need 4 sliders in the interface (start x, start y, grid x, grid y) to be able to make it work. That said, some kind of screen shuffling plugin is an interesting idea, and even *I* might even be able to write something like that...not too much math, just random numbers and an array or two...hmm...

here it is: viewtopic.php?f=16&t=3726

It's bound to be a bit slow...it has to run a particular floating-point calculation for each rendered pixel...barring some unknown (and faster) optimization for calculating the value of a point in mandelbrot space, you can probably only go faster with a faster computer.

Pretty sure it's not. It's a 12-year-old plugin for an ancient version of a no-longer manufactured product, and it came with a scanner I bought way back then (or a video card, can't remember). I do still have the CD for it, and I've already looked to see if there's anything human-readable, but didn't find anything. Actually, I think the interface is already present, at least partly, in the blur deluxe plugins...they let you click in a square to change a setting. The preview part isn't present, and there would be math involved in order to change the coordinates the correct amount relative to scale, depending on how far in you were zoomed.

The ability to use a font or not (as I understand it) is tied to the .NET framework. The main reason I bothered reading this thread is that I had a vague recollection of a particular font not working after having worked before and learning that OpenFont font types aren't supported. I wouldn't count him out as lying or incorrect just because not everyone has run into the same situation. I've certainly seen some odd things happen on PCs over the years, and the more software someone has installed, the odder they get. That said, if we're talking about "how can I use this font in an image I create with Paint.NET, you have a couple of options. 1. Find a comparable TrueType Font 2. Create the text in a different program (maybe even MS Paint), save it as an image, and import it into Paint.NET (or edit it with Paint.NET) 3. See if somebody can convert the font to TrueType

Moc, I have a request for the next version. Recently, there have been a number of effects that sent me down memory lane to when I played around with Aldus PhotoStyler SE and Kai's Power Tools 3.0. Kai's power tools was an extension for photostyler/photoshop and included (among other things) a julia and mandelbrot explorer...I actually found the paper manual for it last week...several PhotoShop effects came from KPT, actually. I'll write up a little something on it later. Anyway, the UI was pretty unusual for it's day...a non-rectangular window with transparent areas, but the imlpementation was really good. It had a preview window that showed the area you were viewing, zoom buttons, and pan buttons. If you clicked on a spot in the preview window, that became the "center", then you could zoom in, recenter, or pan around a bit. The ability to click where "center" should be was what made it really useful, though. You save a lot of time futzing around with sliders and you can focus on finding an interesting part of the fractal. I don't know when or if you'd be able to manage something like that, but if you did, you'd be my personal hero.

you know what...the eyes on the new one are prettier, but I think the overall look of the original is better.

tutorial, please...I *love* the look of those buttons, especially the bevel on the metal panel and the backlit glow...

well, now I'm more curious. I have a second PC that I can install earlier versions of Paint.NET on. if I have time next week, I'll experiment a bit.

1: This question should be in "Questions and General Discussion" 2: Paint.NET is for editing images, not downloading them 3: If you're copying a bunch of images from other websites to use on *your* website, make sure you don't get sued. It's illegal unless you created them or have explicit permission. 4: If you need to grab a bunch of web content in a hurry (like to mirror a website), google search for "website copy" 5: If you need to grab a bunch of images from random places (and have a list of URLs) google search for "wget"...you'll need to learn about scripting, to make it automatic.

PdN is the common shorthand.

I'm not sure if you can...do you know for sure what version you were using before you updated to 3.10?

Sort of. When it crashes it spits a crash log onto the desktop with my e-mail address in it. Well, I promise I won't ask you to fix them No comment on the whole interview thing?

...okay, maybe nobody else is curious, but I am. How would he have been able to use an OpenType font before, when he is unable to use the same font now? Regardless of whether Paint.NET/.net 2.0 supports OpenType, how would he have been able to *ever* make use of it? That's the real question underlying his "how can I use this font again" request.

It's doubtful, even if he releases his source code. The reason I say this is simply because of the design changes I'm eyeing for 4.0. Right now it's a lot of work and complexity to implement this type of stuff in 3.x. I have wanted for awhile to refactor the tool system to make more advanced stuff a lot easier and cleaner to implement. So I'd rather do that and then revamp the tools, instead of spending a lot of time now revamping, and a lot of time later (for 4.0) revamping. Not to mention the reduction in bug churn -- as you have no doubt seen from the flood of bug reports coming in for this mod s'okay...I've been using it with no crashes so far, and I can live with it as an unofficial patch. These are aphillips' bugs, anyway That makes me thoughtful, though...how far along *are* you in designing 4.0? What percentage of the codebase ends up rewritten? (Guessing a pretty large number for a full version change). Have you given any thought to doing an interview about Paint.NET and what's coming in 4.0? You're pretty good about responding to stuff on the forums and giving notice of changes on the blog, but a Q & A-type interview might make a lot of people happy (I know I'd appreciate the insight). What do you think about that?