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So, I was trying to create a custom pallet and found an issue. For reference, here is the file I created (Rainbow.txt): ; Paint.NET Palette File ; Lines that start with a semicolon are comments ; Colors are written as 8-digit hexadecimal numbers: aarrggbb ; For example, this would specify green: FF00FF00 ; The alpha ('aa') value specifies how transparent a color is. FF is fully opaque, 00 is fully transparent. ; A palette must consist of ninety six (96) colors. If there are less than this, the remaining color ; slots will be set to white (FFFFFFFF). If there are more, then the remaining colors will be ignored. FFFFD8D8 FFFFA8A8 FFFF7777 FFFF3A3A FFFF0000 FFC10000 FF890000 FF4C0000 FFD8FFFF FFA8FFFF FF77FFFF FF3AFFFF FF00FFFF FF00BABA FF008282 FF004444 FFFFDDBF FFFFBB7F FFFF8E2B FFCC6200 FFB55700 FF914800 FF683400 FF381C00 FFD8F1FF FFA8E0FF FF77CFFF FF3ABAFF FF00A5FF FF0077B7 FF00527F FF002F47 FFFFFFD8 FFFFFFA8 FFFFFF77 FFFFFF3A FFFFFF00 FFBCBC00 FF848400 FF4F4F00 FFD8D8FF FFA8A8FF FF7777FF FF3A3AFF FF0000FF FF0000BF FF000087 FF000051 FFF7FFD8 FFEDFFA8 FFE3FF77 FFD7FF3A FFCCFF00 FF96BC00 FF6A8400 FF3F4F00 FFE5D8FF FFC5A8FF FFA477FF FF7C3AFF FF5900FF FF3E00BC FF2D0087 FF1B0051 FFD8FFDF FFA8FFB8 FF77FF90 FF3AFF5E FF00FF2E FF00BF23 FF008718 FF00510E FFFFD8FF FFFFA8FF FFFF77FF FFFF3AFF FFFF00FF FFBC00BC FF840084 FF4F004F FFE0E0E0 FFC0C0C0 FFA0A0A0 FF808080 FF606060 FF404040 FF202020 FF000000 FFFFFFFF FFFFFFFF FFFFFFFF FFFFFFFF FFFFFFFF FFFFFFFF FFFFFFFF FFFFFFFF I noticed that the shades of gray were not being loaded properly. Here is a quick way to see the issue: 1) Open the color docker and click More>> to expand the box 2) Enter the hex value 202020 3) Save that color into an empty spot on your pallet 4) Select another color on your pallet (like blue or red or something) 5) Select the dark gray color you created in step 3 Notice that the hex value is different than what you created. :? For me, it comes up as 1E1E1E.

Will Merge Layers make the 3.0 version?

Is there a way in codelab to manipulate the HSV values of a pixel? Or, do you always have to use RGB?

The help file is located in your paint.net directory. Try looking in there to find it. The name is index.html Mine is located in: C:\Program Files\Paint.NET\Help\en\index.html Does the Help folder exist on your computer under the Paint.NET folder?

I noticed this as well. Also, if you use the up arrows/down arrows the color in the "add color to palet" does not changed either.

I've been thinking a lot about this left-click vs. right-click thing as I really would like to see color selection similar to the way MS Paint does it (left-click=primary, right-click=secondary). I think it could work if you changed the colors docker to something like this: What do you think? EDIT: Here's another crash for you. I clicked Help > Check for updates... and it didn't find any so I clicked the Cancel button to close that dialog box. Crash. This text file was created because Paint.NET crashed. Please e-mail this file to feedback@getpaint.net so we can diagnose and fix the problem. Application version: Paint.NET v3.0 (Milestone 1 Release build 3.0.2440.21027) Time of crash: 9/9/2006 10:18:50 PM Application uptime: 00:00:25.9568064 OS Version: 5.1.2600.131072 Service Pack 2 Workstation x86 .NET Framework version: 2.0.50727.42 x86 Processor: 1x Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1500MHz Physical memory: 510 MB Exception details: System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object. at PaintDotNet.StateMachineExecutor.Abort() at PaintDotNet.Updates.UpdatesDialog.CloseButton_Click(Object sender, EventArgs e) at System.Windows.Forms.Control.OnClick(EventArgs e) at System.Windows.Forms.Button.OnClick(EventArgs e) at System.Windows.Forms.Button.OnMouseUp(MouseEventArgs mevent) at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WmMouseUp(Message& m, MouseButtons button, Int32 clicks) at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WndProc(Message& m) at System.Windows.Forms.ButtonBase.WndProc(Message& m) at System.Windows.Forms.Button.WndProc(Message& m) at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.OnMessage(Message& m) at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.WndProc(Message& m) at System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback(IntPtr hWnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wparam, IntPtr lparam) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ BTW, I don't know if it is because I am behind a firewall here at Intel, but the checking ALWAYS fails the first time. I check again and it finds something. Strange. Another bug? When I did finally get it to download version 2442 it warned me that it needed to close in order to complete the update. I clicked ok and nothing happened. I manually closed paint.net and ran it again--it is still at build 2440. Ummm... Rick, simply graying out the Save button when illegal characters are entered in the save pallet box is probably not a good idea. This could really confuse and frustrate the users. How about giving them a warning message with instructions on how to fix the problem while listing the illegal characters?

Easier to localize. Rick, any chance for a third color for the middle mouse button? :shock:

How many fonts do you have installed?

Interesting use of the term ZBB. At Intel we have ZBB which stands for Zero Based Budget. It is basically a list of features in prioritized order and we draw a ZBB line where we think the features above the line will be implemented and the features below the line are slated for the following releases. The ZBB line is somewhat flexible as we get closer to our planned release date.

I see your point. Hmmm... That damn drop down is the problem. Get rid of it. (OK, I'll keep thinking)

The tolerance bar is now much larger and is shown on the bottom "tool" bar when you have a tool selected that works with tolerance. The bottom tool bar in the screenshot above is now dynamic. It changes based on what you are doing. For example, when you are drawing squares or circles it does not show you the font drop downs--there's no reason.

1) You could have a button on the tool bar showing the overlapping squares of foreground/background color. When the user clicks the button, the color docker is revealed (if hidden) and expanded. 2) Thanks! 3) Actually, it would be very simple this way: In the color wells, clicking with primary mouse button selects the color into the foreground color and changes the dropdown to "Primary". Clicking the secondary mouse button selects the color into the background color and changes the dropdown to "Secondary". No other functionality need be changed. Of course, you would not want this to happen during a save or delete action from the palet. 4) Here is a list of illegal characters: \ / : * ? " | 5) Cool. I know its pre-alpha. But, I wanted to get my suggestions in early. Paint.net is really coming along. I hardly ever open Corel PhotoPaint any more. Your UI is much more intuitive, so I prefer it. (Speaking of which, I think I'll start keeping notes of when I must use Corel and make more suggestions.)

Initially discussed here: http://paintdotnet.12.forumer.com/viewtopic.php?t=2047

You could make a smaller sig with more impact by doing something like this: Don't mind me, I just like smaller sigs.

Feel free to use mine...

I usually hide all of the dockers to keep them out of the way. Espically the color one, which seems huge even in "less" mode. Maybe its because my laptop screen is 1024x768. Currently on the new tool bar you can see all kinds of info about how your new box will be drawn (outline/fill mode, alias mode, alpha blending, brush, etc.) you just can't see what color it will be. When you currently have black as your selected color, the entire H line is black. Sliding the arrow from one black area to another does not give you a real indication of what color you will get if you start sliding the S or V sliders. That's all I'm getting at. Don't get me wrong. I simply LOVE the new sliders. I just think it would be more intuitive if the H slider indicator was always fully "lit". Oh, and you can call me goldfish.

Picc84, your sig was funny the first time I read it. Now its just annoying.

Main UI: I think you should add the current foreground/background color indicator to the tool bar (any one of them, but probably the "tool" tool bar.) The "Window" menu should have access to switch between the different open graphics. I see there is a hot-key for switching images (Ctrl-Tab). Nice. In the new color docker: I don't think the graphical H indicator (of the HSV area) should change color. Ever. It is very confusing as it works now. It should always look like a full-color, bright rainbow. Left-Click on the new color wells should select primary color, Right-Click should select secondary color. Deleting a color is not very intuitive. It should work one of two ways: 1) Click to select a color (and it would remain highlighted, outlined), then click the X or 2) Click the X and the cursor changes to an arrow with an X in the corner to indicate that you are in "delete mode". Other controls should be disabled in this mode. To cancel the mode, click the X again or press ESC. When saving a color the cursor should change to indicate that you are in "save mode". Clicking Save and entering illegal characters causes a crash. Try typing a file name with a ">" character in it. I'll let you make your own crash log for that one. Here's another crash: Open a pallet file using notepad, change one of the colors to FFXXYYZZ and save the file. Load it. Save it to a new name. Crash. Sorry if my tone is a bit on the harsh side. I'm at work.

I'm not sure. TOON is the only non-standard plugin that I have loaded.

Do filters have to be recompiled to work with this build? I opened an image and ran the TOON filter. Crash. This text file was created because Paint.NET crashed. Please e-mail this file to feedback@getpaint.net so we can diagnose and fix the problem. Application version: Paint.NET v3.0 (Milestone 1 Release build 3.0.2440.21027) Time of crash: 9/6/2006 4:01:30 PM Application uptime: 00:02:01.3830120 OS Version: 5.1.2600.131072 Service Pack 2 Workstation x86 .NET Framework version: 2.0.50727.42 x86 Processor: 1x Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1500MHz Physical memory: 510 MB Exception details: System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object. at PaintDotNet.Menus.EffectMenuBase.RunEffect(Type effectType) at PaintDotNet.Menus.EffectMenuBase.EffectMenuItem_Click(Object sender, EventArgs e) at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripItem.RaiseEvent(Object key, EventArgs e) at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripMenuItem.OnClick(EventArgs e) at PaintDotNet.PdnMenuItem.OnClick(EventArgs e) at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripItem.HandleClick(EventArgs e) at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripItem.HandleMouseUp(MouseEventArgs e) at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripItem.FireEventInteractive(EventArgs e, ToolStripItemEventType met) at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripItem.FireEvent(EventArgs e, ToolStripItemEventType met) at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStrip.OnMouseUp(MouseEventArgs mea) at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripDropDown.OnMouseUp(MouseEventArgs mea) at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WmMouseUp(Message& m, MouseButtons button, Int32 clicks) at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WndProc(Message& m) at System.Windows.Forms.ScrollableControl.WndProc(Message& m) at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStrip.WndProc(Message& m) at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripDropDown.WndProc(Message& m) at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.OnMessage(Message& m) at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.WndProc(Message& m) at System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback(IntPtr hWnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wparam, IntPtr lparam) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Well, this thing's worthless. I can't get it to work with XP.

Rick, even if you don't add actual pressure simulation, how about adding a new pencil mode similar to how this program works: SketchIt! It has a very natural feel. Well, my friend finally brought me the tablet he has. It is called "Pablo" by KB Gear Interactive. I'll see if I can hook it up tomorrow.

If I select something, then flatten the image, the selection goes away. Can this be fixed? I am constantly working around this. Thanks.

How is an airbrush different from drawing on a new layer and applying a frosted glass filter to it? That's what MS Paint would look like. Or applying a guassian blur to it (like other programs would look like).

Use the text tool and do the following: Hold down the Alt key and press 0169 on the keypad, then release the Alt key. Result: ©