webODM tiff saved file WSG84 - can't open

[MrG]

Funnily I can open said tiff files in QGIS, ArcGIS, GIMP and photoshop. So I doubt there's anything wrong with the files since all these apps have no problems..

And funnily - if webODM tiff saved file EPSG:3123 also paint.net can open the files..

but funnily if webODM tiff saved file WSG84 then I get the exception message as stated below.

This was also with 5.0.11 but I figured let's try latest version.. however the error remains.


Yes I know hear everyone saying: then why don't just just save in WSG84 and convert to EPSG:3123..

 

well, for whatever reason, if I do it like that it also gives me this error message..

 

directly downloading from ODM in EPSG:3123 it opens ...

but if downloading first as WSG84 and then opening either as WSG84 or after conversin in EPSG:3123 then it doesn't..

 

Really puzzling me..

 

 

Exception:

PaintDotNet.Imaging.ImagingComponentNotFoundException (0x88982F50): Exception of type 'PaintDotNet.Imaging.ImagingComponentNotFoundException' was thrown. (ImagingError.ComponentNotFound 0x88982F50)
   at PaintDotNet.Interop.ExceptionFactory.ThrowError(Int32 hr, String message, Exception innerEx) in D:\src\pdn\src_4_3_x\Windows\Interop\ExceptionFactory.cs:line 54
   at PaintDotNet.Interop.ExceptionTunnel.ThrowOnErrorCold(HRESULT hr, Exception exception) in D:\src\pdn\src_4_3_x\Windows\Interop\ExceptionTunnel.cs:line 73
   at PaintDotNet.Imaging.WICImagingFactory.CreateDecoderFromStream(Stream stream, BitmapDecodeOptions metadataOptions, Nullable`1& containerFormat, Nullable`1& preferredVendor) in D:\src\pdn\src_4_3_x\Windows\Imaging\WICImagingFactory.cs:line 414
   at PaintDotNet.Data.WicHelpers.Load(Stream input, Nullable`1& forcedContainerFormat, Nullable`1& preferredVendor, IMetadataTranscoder metadataTranscoder) in D:\src\pdn\src_4_3_x\PaintDotNet\Data\WicHelpers.cs:line 107
   at PaintDotNet.Data.TiffFileType.OnLoad(Stream input) in D:\src\pdn\src_4_3_x\PaintDotNet\Data\TiffFileType.cs:line 58
   at PaintDotNet.FileType.Load(Stream input) in D:\src\pdn\src_4_3_x\Data\FileType.cs:line 491
   at PaintDotNet.Functional.Func.Eval[T1,TRet](Func`2 f, T1 arg1) in D:\src\pdn\src_4_3_x\Fundamentals\Functional\Func.cs:line 60

Diagnostics:

Application                                          paint.net 5.0.12 (Stable 5.12.8735.38135)
Build Date                                           Friday, December 1, 2023
Install type                                         Portable

Language:                                            en-US
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Rendering GPU                                        🚀 Performance (NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050)
Remote session                                       False
Animations                                           True
Translucent windows                                  True
Windows Ink                                          True

OS                                                   Windows 11 Pro x64 (10.0.22631.0)
Runtime                                              .NET 7.0.14 x64

Physical Memory                                      32,627 MB (17,802 MB free)
Paging File                                          55,155 MB (28,767 MB free)

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    Connected to                                     NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050

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    Compute Preemption                               DispatchBoundary
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    Graphics Preemption                              TriangleBoundary
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    Graphics Preemption                              InstructionBoundary
    Compute Preemption                               InstructionBoundary
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[null54]

41 minutes ago, MrG said:

Really puzzling me..

 

Paint.NET uses the TIFF read/write functionality that is built-in to Windows, Windows Imaging Component (WIC). There could be something about those files that WIC does not like.

The other apps you mentioned have their own code for handling TIFF files that is independent of WIC, e.g. GIMP uses libtiff.

[Tactilis]

@MrG please post links to:

- webODM tiff in EPSG:3123 (i.e opens OK in paint.net)

- webODM tiff in WGS84 (i.e does not open)

[Rick Brewster]

I have no idea what "EPSG:3123" or "WGS84" are.

 

It would help if you would provide one of the files that does not open.

[Tactilis]

1 hour ago, Rick Brewster said:

I have no idea what "EPSG:3123" or "WGS84" are.

They are just different coordinate systems/datums (projections) used for mapping & imagery.

WGS84 is the World Geodetic System 1984.

EPSG:3123 is optimised for the area around the Philippines.

 

The metadata in the geoTIFF file will indicate the projection in use.


 

[MrG]

I'm now uploading first the file that error's.. maybe one of you can find out already why it does..
The only differences I see in the files is the embedded pages.. the files I can open properly don't have this.
The other difference is the bands..

But anyway will post a link to the file that error's so let's see, it's a big file though.. 2GB

Although that shouldn't be a problem because in paint.net I also open much larger files.. but they then never have these embedded pages nor band colour specifications.

 

So these are the bands, other tiff also have bans, but not specified as red-green-blue.. just Band

The file that gives the error, has these, embedded smaller images

[MrG]

The link to the file that gives the error:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/11fdEg9nrl99DUYxbjCjoBw3wGs-ZEvEe/view?usp=sharing

Edited January 1 by MrG

[Tactilis]

20 minutes ago, MrG said:

But anyway will post a link to the file that error's so let's see, it's a big file though.. 2GB

 

Although that shouldn't be a problem because in paint.net I also open much larger files..

But it may well be a problem for anyone wanting investigate the issue for you.

Can you reproduce the problem with a much smaller area and therefore smaller file?

 

[MrG]

2 minutes ago, Tactilis said:

But it may well be a problem for anyone wanting investigate the issue for you.

Can you reproduce the problem with a much smaller area and therefore smaller file?

 

I only know to use GIMP to make it smaller, but GIMP saves it differently and that causes no problem for paint.net to open.

But editing with GIMP, I lose a lot of quality and it adds a black layer and the Geocoding is totally wrong after saving with GIMP.. so that's why I started to use paint.net as it perfectly maintains all geocoded data and also the quality of the image itself remains intact..

btw these files that are stored and a problem for paint.net are created by ODM (OpenDroneMap) but only if I download "All assets" as a zip.
If I download directly as tiff, without zipping it, paint.net opens it without problems.

There's a difference in the files between directly downloading from ODM or downloading zipped ..

So maybe there's an issue on their end, but regardless if that may be true or not, I still wish to know why gimp, ArcGIS, QGIS, Photoshop can open all tiffs and paint.net gives me this weird error I don't understand.

[Tactilis]

34 minutes ago, MrG said:

The only differences I see in the files is the embedded pages.. the files I can open properly don't have this.
The other difference is the bands..

You appear to be changing too many variables at once.


You started out by saying:

 

14 hours ago, MrG said:

if webODM tiff saved file EPSG:3123 also paint.net can open the files..

if webODM tiff saved file WSG84 then I get the exception message as stated below.

You need to save a file using webODM in EPSG:3123 and another in WGS84 for exactly the same area and with all other settings being the same.
 

[Tactilis]

6 minutes ago, MrG said:

btw these files that are stored and a problem for paint.net are created by ODM (OpenDroneMap) but only if I download "All assets" as a zip.
If I download directly as tiff, without zipping it, paint.net opens it without problems.

1. Are you saying that the "All assets" .zip contains a copy of the tiff? And the tiff in the .zip is supposed to be the same tiff as you would get by downloading directly?

2. I'm now confused by your original post where you said the problem was between files saved using webODM in EPSG:3123 versus WGS84. But now you are saying the issue is between zipped and non-zipped.

Please start again and create the smallest example you can that provokes the error and be clear what the differences are. Don't change multiple things at once.

[MrG]

This is the link which works:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1WlzDz8zn0PAYPrLJeKepOyJTRO68Am4A/view?usp=sharing

Paint.Net has no problems opening this file, although it's even twice the size

[MrG]

Well to be honest I do NOT know what differences in the file is causing this problem!

There are 2 different options for me to download from the webODM interface.. which presents me the same generated tiff.. internally ODM generates a tiff..

 

I can download that tiff directly.. then it's downloaded in EPSG:3123

Or I download as "all assets.zip" and then the tiff I get is in WGS84.. which is equal to epsg32651, if using the zone 51N projection: EPSG:32651 - WGS 84 / UTM zone 51N - Projected

So I honestly have NO IDEA why so many variables are different.. because there's a single time that the orthographic image is being generated and written as GeoTIFF.

I expect when I click download orthographic image OR "all assets" as zip it to be the same.. but fact is it's not..

And fact is, the two different files.. one I can load in paint.net and the other gives me the error.

And the one giving me the error, is the good one, which doesn't cut off a small portion of the image so that's the one I need.

The projection itself, it doesn't matter much to me, I can change that in QGIS.. all I need in the end, is paint.net to open it, and save it again, as the paint.net seems to save 100% the same quality.. in just 25% of the size of the file!

There seems to be a lot of data ... empty data.. no data.. eating a lot of GB ..

But when I open in paint.net, and do nothing, just click save.. the files are like 4 times smaller but opening them in any editor or GIS application or GeoServer or Tileserver.. the quality is 100% the same.. just 75% smaller storage footprint..

So that's why I wish to open in paint.net and save in paint net.. clearly paint.net has a much better algorithm in saving data and keeping the storage significantly smaller.

Edited January 1 by MrG

[Tactilis]

10 minutes ago, MrG said:

And the one giving me the error, is the good one, which doesn't cut off a small portion of the image

So downloading directly as a tiff and downloading an All assets zip file containing the tiff are clearly not equivalent, not even in terms coverage area.

 

 

42 minutes ago, MrG said:

I expect when I click download orthographic image OR "all assets" as zip it to be the same.. but fact is it's not.

This is an issue that would be best asked about on the webODM forum. Once you have an an answer to that, then maybe it will point to why Windows Imaging Component rejects the 'bad' tiff.


 

[Tactilis]

 

The Windows Photos app also uses WIC.

 

It can open your 'good' file (the one with the cropped corner) but is unable to open your 'bad' file:



So, as @null54 originally pointed out, this is a WIC problem (or maybe actually a webODM problem), not a paint.net issue.

 

 

[MrG]

https://community.opendronemap.org/t/download-assets-windows-imaging-component-incompatible-under-certain-conditions/18792/2

I posted this on their forum.. with a link to this forum entry here.. so both reports are "linked" easy for anyone then to follow-up

[MrG]

10 minutes ago, Tactilis said:

 

o, as @null54 originally pointed out, this is a WIC problem (or maybe actually a webODM problem), not a paint.net issue.

 

 

Yes I understand it's either a webODM or WIC issue.. since WIC is already 17+ years old going to assume webODM issue.

It's just I know on forums like these are quite often very smart and experienced people who can figure out what is actually wrong, because I have absolutely no clue.

So hoping for one of you guys, to figure out what's wrong.. and if it's webODM or WIC.. and what is wrong with it.. so I can contact either MS or webODM folks about it.

I'm literally shooting air into thin air here...not a single clue..

Thank you for your trying to help me .. much appreciated

[Rick Brewster]

21 hours ago, MrG said:

Exception:

PaintDotNet.Imaging.ImagingComponentNotFoundException (0x88982F50)

 

This error indicates that WIC is unable to identify the type of the file (JPEG, TIFF, etc.) from its contents. It does not use the file extension for determining the image type. So it is definitely not a TIFF, at least not by WIC's understanding of them, even if it has a file extension of .tif / .tiff.

[Rick Brewster]

6 hours ago, MrG said:

paint.net seems to save 100% the same quality.. in just 25% of the size of the file!

 

There are two likely causes for this:

1. Paint.NET is saving with compression enabled, but the other app isn't
2. Paint.NET is loading a high-bit-depth image (e.g. 64-bit BGRA), converting it to 32-bit BGRA in the process, and is losing precision even if you can't visually discern the difference.

I'd be wary of 2 -- you will want to check the bit-depth of the image before opening in PDN. 

 

For example, I have a 64-bit TIFF in my test images folder, when you inspect its properties it says it's 64-bit:

 

[null54]

5 hours ago, Rick Brewster said:

So it is definitely not a TIFF, at least not by WIC's understanding of them, even if it has a file extension of .tif / .tiff.

 

That file (odm_orthophoto.tif) uses BigTIFF, a TIFF variant that uses 64-bit offsets in place of the 32-bit offsets in the regular TIFF format. The TIFF  format can be identified in a hex editor by the file header signature, the first 4 bytes would be:

 

Regular TIFF Motorola/Big Endian - 0x4D 0x4D 0x00 0x2A
Regular TIFF Intel/Little Endian - 0x49 0x49 0x2A 0x00

Big TIFF Motorola/Big Endian - 0x4D 0x4D 0x00 0x2B
Big TIFF Intel/Little Endian - 0x49 0x49 0x2B 0x00

 

I have no idea why that file was written as BigTIFF, its size is well within the 4 GB limit of the regular TIFF format.

As for why WIC does not support BigTIFF, that would be a question for Microsoft.

[MrG]

45 minutes ago, null54 said:

 

That file (odm_orthophoto.tif) uses BigTIFF, a TIFF variant that uses 64-bit offsets in place of the 32-bit offsets in the regular TIFF format. The TIFF  format can be identified in a hex editor by the file header signature, the first 4 bytes would be:

 

Regular TIFF Motorola/Big Endian - 0x4D 0x4D 0x00 0x2A
Regular TIFF Intel/Big Endian    - 0x49 0x49 0x2A 0x00

Big TIFF Motorola/Big Endian - 0x4D 0x4D 0x00 0x2B
Big TIFF Intel/Little Endian - 0x49 0x49 0x2B 0x00

 

I have no idea why that file was written as BigTIFF, its size is well within the 4 GB limit of the regular TIFF format.

As for why WIC does not support BigTIFF, that would be a question for Microsoft.

Thank you! Just tried to convert it from big TiFF to Regular TIFF and then it works..

Awesome you discovered this.. many many thanks!

As for why it's written as Big TIFF, during the generation of the original file on the server, it's over 4GB, so I presume it must be Big TIFF there.
I guess when I download it, and the algorithm compresses it down before download, it probably sees no reason to change to Regular TIFF and maintains the Big TIFF.

But anyway, converting it works.. Thanks again

btw, screenshot of the original data size on the server disk:

Edited January 2 by MrG

[Tactilis]

I see that you've had a positive response on the webODM forum confirming that WIC doesn't handle BigTIFF and that a webODM issue will be raised to investigate why the wrong format is being chosen when exporting the <4GB file & why part of your image area is being cut off.

A good outcome.