Kayreeed Caliburn Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 (edited) http://www.dwphotoshop.com/photoshop/SwordTutorial.php That is the link to the tutorial, and I want to make the blade (exactly the same), but apparently PDN doesn't have the "Lighting Effects" thing. So is there a way to achieve that? Edited January 10, 2012 by Kayreeed Caliburn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delpart Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 Look at this: Similar Sword Tut For the lens flair like effect, you can test the one plugin that makes them to see about blending a layer in. A bit of work to create that effect in and of itself. Depends on just how close you want it to look. Some gradients with curves applied to "metalize" an inner edge, then cropped, color inverted ... A bit of work comes to mind to me. Maybe somebody else has some fast how to on that. (Written under duress of headache. Just .02 to help.) Quote *** Gallery at PDN-Fans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kayreeed Caliburn Posted January 10, 2012 Author Share Posted January 10, 2012 I know that tutorial, but it doesn't fit...I want the middle line on the blade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kayreeed Caliburn Posted January 10, 2012 Author Share Posted January 10, 2012 When I said I want to make the blade I want to make one exactly the same Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim100361 Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 (edited) When I said I want to make the blade I want to make one exactly the same I am not trying to be rude, but the concept about tutorials is that you practice with them and get yourself familiar with the various plugins and their effects on the project that you are working on as well as getting around in paint.net. No single tutorial is going to cover every aspect of what paint.net has to offer. Delve into other tutorials and after a bit you should be able to combine various effects that you've learned to put together a piece like you want. ================================= "Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish, and you feed him for a lifetime." Edited January 10, 2012 by jim100361 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delpart Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 I know that tutorial, but it doesn't fit...I want the middle line on the blade Ah so the question should have been something pointing out the exact step involved instead of allowing for speculation by just quoting the hang-up you're having. You did quote what you wanted now that I bothered to use F3 on that tut. But asking people for help should be posed with as much information as possible to avoid miscommunication for both parties. Including what you may have tried already: tutorials, methods, etc. And not require them to have to do a lot of extra searching on your behalf. In this case you want to figure out how to apply a shadowing effect applied (more or less mimicked using gradients and blend modes via PDN) to the blade form in STEP 7: "Go to Filter/Render/Lighting Effects and follow the settings below." Because even in this second reply my first reaction to "middle line" is to explain how to emboss a thick line using PS Emboss to replicate the blood groove he creates in STEPS 9-10 ... thankfully you were capable of double posting instead of using the edit feature to include a second post to get really specific about "exactly" what you wanted here ... That sort of gradient effect from STEP 7 can be derived from starting with a vertical gradient (or horizontal which might make it easier to line up after all that) and then using polar transformation - rectangular to polar on it (at some odd angle probably to get near that tip blemish shown), and then working from that form blend out a gradient with a fine point to align ... not a one step thing at all and requires some blurring, masking etc to blend in. At least that's one way to go about getting that sort of hard line gradient mix started. There may be others someone can suggest now that everyone knows your goal is to duplicate the tutorial without compromise of any sort. Quote *** Gallery at PDN-Fans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pdnnoob Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 (edited) Here's a paint.net translation of the tutorial: 1-3. no change --Make sure the end of the sword that will be pointy is right up against the edge of the canvas. Scroll down for details. 4. use perspective plugin to duplicate the effect 5-6. replace with flatten image, then "invert colors" 7. This one, I will split into a few steps some sub-steps removed a. Make an alpha mask of your blade. By this, I mean duplicate the layer and use "brightness/contrast" to make it completely black or white, then hit "ctrl+a" then "ctrl+c" and uncheck the layer visibility. You may wish to save this in a different file just in case. b. Run "emboss" on the visible layer from whatever angle you wish, then use the alpha mask plugin with "paste from selection" checked. c. (Optional) Add a new layer on top and make a circular gradient from white to black. Try to offset this slightly from the middle of the sword, and make the outer edge reach at least the end of the sword. Use the alpha mask from before to cut it into the shape of your sword, then play with the layer blend mode a bit. d. flatten image e. Use the AA's_Assistant plugin twice to remove the ugly outline around the blade. 8-8a. no change. Make sure you use the alpha mask on the layer you ran motion blur on. Also, 25% opacity is approximately 64 in the paint.net layer properties window. 9-10. You will be making your line on a white layer rather than on a transparent one. Blur the line slightly if you wish. Run emboss from 90 degrees. Play with the layer properties some more. I would try glow or overlay as layer blend modes. Lower the opacity as desired. Use the alpha mask again to remove excess materials. 11. no change 12. Flatten image 13. If needed, run the AA's_Assistant plugin again You now have your blade! I really didn't like the handle in the tutorial, so I won't post a translation unless you really want it. EDIT: I wrote this without testing at all, so if anything doesn't look right, let me know and I'll find a solution EDIT2: Removed some extra steps and edited some steps to remove confusion. Changes are in red. Edited January 13, 2012 by pdnnoob 2 Quote No, Paint.NET is not spyware...but, installing it is an IQ test. ~BoltBait Blend modes are like the filling in your sandwich. It's the filling that can change your experience of the sandwich. ~Ego Eram Reputo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kayreeed Caliburn Posted January 11, 2012 Author Share Posted January 11, 2012 (edited) I don't understand the perspective plugin. I changed the all the ratios and the image hasn't changed? Edited January 11, 2012 by Kayreeed Caliburn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pdnnoob Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 Ok. Ok. Thankyou. Yeah, I just want the blade. </I know I'm kinda dumb> A perfectly legitimate question deserves a perfectly legitimate answer...I hope mine was up to par! Quote No, Paint.NET is not spyware...but, installing it is an IQ test. ~BoltBait Blend modes are like the filling in your sandwich. It's the filling that can change your experience of the sandwich. ~Ego Eram Reputo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kayreeed Caliburn Posted January 11, 2012 Author Share Posted January 11, 2012 Or the image disappear altogether... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kayreeed Caliburn Posted January 11, 2012 Author Share Posted January 11, 2012 Please can you give me some guidelines to how to use the perspective plugin? I'm totally stuck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pdnnoob Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 (edited) Please can you give me some guidelines to how to use the perspective plugin? I'm totally stuck. Sorry about that...that wasn't the plugin that I intended to reference, but as it turns out, it works a ton better! What you will have to do is move the sword so that the end is up against the right or left edge. That way, after you cut the tip to a new layer, you can set the plugin to "horizontal trapezoid". All this plugin will be for is getting the angle right and sharpening the tip. You can adjust it to fit afterwards using the move pixels tool. One thing to note is that the plugin will only work properly for you if you have your blade centered vertically. There is a plugin for this called "Align Object" that I would highly recommend downloading. I don't know what I would do without it Edited January 11, 2012 by pdnnoob Quote No, Paint.NET is not spyware...but, installing it is an IQ test. ~BoltBait Blend modes are like the filling in your sandwich. It's the filling that can change your experience of the sandwich. ~Ego Eram Reputo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kayreeed Caliburn Posted January 12, 2012 Author Share Posted January 12, 2012 (edited) Ok. I'll try it. Edited January 12, 2012 by Kayreeed Caliburn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kayreeed Caliburn Posted January 12, 2012 Author Share Posted January 12, 2012 Sorry about that...that wasn't the plugin that I intended to reference, but as it turns out, it works a ton better! What you will have to do is move the sword so that the end is up against the right or left edge. That way, after you cut the tip to a new layer, you can set the plugin to "horizontal trapezoid". All this plugin will be for is getting the angle right and sharpening the tip. You can adjust it to fit afterwards using the move pixels tool. One thing to note is that the plugin will only work properly for you if you have your blade centered vertically. There is a plugin for this called "Align Object" that I would highly recommend downloading. I don't know what I would do without it I can't get it to pointy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pdnnoob Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 (edited) Also, I removed some steps in the tutorial that didn't need to be there... example of what I came up with using my translation+a few tweaks: http://i758.photobucket.com/albums/xx228/pdnnoob/swordexample.png Edited January 12, 2012 by pdnnoob Quote No, Paint.NET is not spyware...but, installing it is an IQ test. ~BoltBait Blend modes are like the filling in your sandwich. It's the filling that can change your experience of the sandwich. ~Ego Eram Reputo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kayreeed Caliburn Posted January 13, 2012 Author Share Posted January 13, 2012 Also, I removed some steps in the tutorial that didn't need to be there... example of what I came up with using my translation+a few tweaks: http://i758.photobucket.com/albums/xx228/pdnnoob/swordexample.png I get it now..I keep on changing Ratio2 instead of Ratio1..Thanks a lot! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kayreeed Caliburn Posted January 13, 2012 Author Share Posted January 13, 2012 Here's a paint.net translation of the tutorial: 1-3. no change --Make sure the end of the sword that will be pointy is right up against the edge of the canvas. Scroll down for details. 4. use perspective plugin to duplicate the effect 5-6. replace with flatten image, then "invert colors" 7. This one, I will split into a few steps some sub-steps removed a. Make an alpha mask of your blade. By this, I mean duplicate the layer and use "brightness/contrast" to make it completely black or white, then hit "ctrl+a" then "ctrl+c" and uncheck the layer visibility. You may wish to save this in a different file just in case. b. Run "emboss" on the layer from whatever angle you wish, then use the alpha mask plugin with "paste from selection" checked. c. (Optional) Add a new layer on top and make a circular gradient from white to black. Try to offset this slightly from the middle of the sword, and make the outer edge reach at least the end of the sword. Use the alpha mask from before to cut it into the shape of your sword, then play with the layer blend mode a bit. d. flatten image e. Use the AA's_Assistant plugin twice to remove the ugly outline around the blade. 8-8a. no change. Make sure you use the alpha mask on the layer you ran motion blur on. Also, 25% opacity is approximately 64 in the paint.net layer properties window. 9-10. You will be making your line on a white layer rather than on a transparent one. Blur the line slightly if you wish. Run emboss from 90 degrees. Play with the layer properties some more. I would try glow or overlay as layer blend modes. Lower the opacity as desired. Use the alpha mask again to remove excess materials. 11. no change 12. Flatten image 13. If needed, run the AA's_Assistant plugin again You now have your blade! I really didn't like the handle in the tutorial, so I won't post a translation unless you really want it. EDIT: I wrote this without testing at all, so if anything doesn't look right, let me know and I'll find a solution EDIT2: Removed some extra steps and edited some steps to remove confusion. Changes are in red. Is the emboss on the visibility unchecked layer? And is black the secondary colour or the primary and vice versa for white? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pdnnoob Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 My bad...emboss is supposed to be on the sword layer. The one with the visibility unchecked is your alpha mask which, at this point, could be deleted (but I wouldn't just yet...just in case) The only place where I see your primary/secondary colors being an issue is for the gradient. In that case, you want the middle to be white. Quote No, Paint.NET is not spyware...but, installing it is an IQ test. ~BoltBait Blend modes are like the filling in your sandwich. It's the filling that can change your experience of the sandwich. ~Ego Eram Reputo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kayreeed Caliburn Posted January 14, 2012 Author Share Posted January 14, 2012 My bad...emboss is supposed to be on the sword layer. The one with the visibility unchecked is your alpha mask which, at this point, could be deleted (but I wouldn't just yet...just in case) The only place where I see your primary/secondary colors being an issue is for the gradient. In that case, you want the middle to be white. So I flatten the image without checking the visibility? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pdnnoob Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 The mask was a temporary layer. Basically, all it was used for was saving the shape of your sword before you messed it up with emboss. That said, you are correct. Don't check the visibility of the mask layer. Quote No, Paint.NET is not spyware...but, installing it is an IQ test. ~BoltBait Blend modes are like the filling in your sandwich. It's the filling that can change your experience of the sandwich. ~Ego Eram Reputo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kayreeed Caliburn Posted January 14, 2012 Author Share Posted January 14, 2012 Is there a quick way to cut out the shape of the blade? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pdnnoob Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 That is what the alpha mask was for. Quote No, Paint.NET is not spyware...but, installing it is an IQ test. ~BoltBait Blend modes are like the filling in your sandwich. It's the filling that can change your experience of the sandwich. ~Ego Eram Reputo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kayreeed Caliburn Posted January 15, 2012 Author Share Posted January 15, 2012 That is what the alpha mask was for. Yeah but how do you use it to cut it out? Use line/curve to do it? I tried and it doesn't show up along the edges Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pdnnoob Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 (edited) Step 7a was where you made your alpha mask. I wonder, though, if you are trying to make this on a white layer rather than a transparent one... Edited January 15, 2012 by pdnnoob Quote No, Paint.NET is not spyware...but, installing it is an IQ test. ~BoltBait Blend modes are like the filling in your sandwich. It's the filling that can change your experience of the sandwich. ~Ego Eram Reputo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kayreeed Caliburn Posted January 16, 2012 Author Share Posted January 16, 2012 Step 7a was where you made your alpha mask. I wonder, though, if you are trying to make this on a white layer rather than a transparent one... The whole thing is transparent, and how did you cut out the shape using the alpha mask? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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