Blooper Posted June 27, 2009 Author Share Posted June 27, 2009 Cutting out images is an obstacle most graphic designers come across at some point. In PDN, it's a tough, lengthy process when you're using the line tool, fill, then alpha mask technique that CMD made a tutorial for. The reason for that is that you can't see the changes live; you have to save the mask and then run the alpha mask plugin to see if the way you made your mask looks nice. Furthermore, filling the mask is often frustrating because often, small holes between the lines will cause the whole canvas to fill; fixing these leaks takes time, even when using the magic wand to find them. Additionally, drawing the lines on the layer where the image to cut out is is an easy mistake to make (I do it at least once every complex cut-out...). Alternatives to this method often leave quality behind. The only solution to this problem I can think of, is making a line eraser tool. What the eraser is to the paintbrush, this new feature would be to the line tool. It would act the same way as the line tool with a fully transparent color and overwrite blending ( :OverwriteBlending: ) on, but with antialiased edges. Cut-outs would be done in real-time, filling the mask would no longer be a problem - using the round eraser would be fine since precision is no longer needed - and you can't make any layer mistakes because if you're not erasing the picture, then you're necessarily on the wrong layer. Thanks for reading. Quote http://synthastic.deviantart.com http://soundcloud.com/siderealenterprise Lockerz invites are available, PM me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blooper Posted June 27, 2009 Share Posted June 27, 2009 Cutting out images is an obstacle most graphic designers come across at some point. In PDN, it's a tough, lengthy process when you're using the line tool, fill, then alpha mask technique that CMD made a tutorial for. The reason for that is that you can't see the changes live; you have to save the mask and then run the alpha mask plugin to see if the way you made your mask looks nice. Furthermore, filling the mask is often frustrating because often, small holes between the lines will cause the whole canvas to fill; fixing these leaks takes time, even when using the magic wand to find them. Additionally, drawing the lines on the layer where the image to cut out is is an easy mistake to make (I do it at least once every complex cut-out...). Alternatives to this method often leave quality behind. The only solution to this problem I can think of, is making a line eraser tool. What the eraser is to the paintbrush, this new feature would be to the line tool. It would act the same way as the line tool with a fully transparent color and overwrite blending ( :OverwriteBlending: ) on, but with antialiased edges. Cut-outs would be done in real-time, filling the mask would no longer be a problem - using the round eraser would be fine since precision is no longer needed - and you can't make any layer mistakes because if you're not erasing the picture, then you're necessarily on the wrong layer. Thanks for reading. Quote http://synthastic.deviantart.com http://soundcloud.com/siderealenterprise Lockerz invites are available, PM me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blooper Posted June 27, 2009 Author Share Posted June 27, 2009 Cutting out images is an obstacle most graphic designers come across at some point. In PDN, it's a tough, lengthy process when you're using the line tool, fill, then alpha mask technique that CMD made a tutorial for. The reason for that is that you can't see the changes live; you have to save the mask and then run the alpha mask plugin to see if the way you made your mask looks nice. Furthermore, filling the mask is often frustrating because often, small holes between the lines will cause the whole canvas to fill; fixing these leaks takes time, even when using the magic wand to find them. Additionally, drawing the lines on the layer where the image to cut out is is an easy mistake to make (I do it at least once every complex cut-out...). Alternatives to this method often leave quality behind. The only solution to this problem I can think of, is making a line eraser tool. What the eraser is to the paintbrush, this new feature would be to the line tool. It would act the same way as the line tool with a fully transparent color and overwrite blending ( :OverwriteBlending: ) on, but with antialiased edges. Cut-outs would be done in real-time, filling the mask would no longer be a problem - using the round eraser would be fine since precision is no longer needed - and you can't make any layer mistakes because if you're not erasing the picture, then you're necessarily on the wrong layer. Thanks for reading. Quote http://synthastic.deviantart.com http://soundcloud.com/siderealenterprise Lockerz invites are available, PM me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blooper Posted June 27, 2009 Author Share Posted June 27, 2009 Cutting out images is an obstacle most graphic designers come across at some point. In PDN, it's a tough, lengthy process when you're using the line tool, fill, then alpha mask technique that CMD made a tutorial for. The reason for that is that you can't see the changes live; you have to save the mask and then run the alpha mask plugin to see if the way you made your mask looks nice. Furthermore, filling the mask is often frustrating because often, small holes between the lines will cause the whole canvas to fill; fixing these leaks takes time, even when using the magic wand to find them. Additionally, drawing the lines on the layer where the image to cut out is is an easy mistake to make (I do it at least once every complex cut-out...). Alternatives to this method often leave quality behind. The only solution to this problem I can think of, is making a line eraser tool. What the eraser is to the paintbrush, this new feature would be to the line tool. It would act the same way as the line tool with a fully transparent color and overwrite blending ( :OverwriteBlending: ) on, but with antialiased edges. Cut-outs would be done in real-time, filling the mask would no longer be a problem - using the round eraser would be fine since precision is no longer needed - and you can't make any layer mistakes because if you're not erasing the picture, then you're necessarily on the wrong layer. Thanks for reading. Quote http://synthastic.deviantart.com http://soundcloud.com/siderealenterprise Lockerz invites are available, PM me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flow55 Posted June 27, 2009 Share Posted June 27, 2009 I like it a lot. I don't render much but it would make things a whole lot easier. Quote My Gallery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flow55 Posted June 27, 2009 Share Posted June 27, 2009 I like it a lot. I don't render much but it would make things a whole lot easier. Quote My Gallery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flow55 Posted June 27, 2009 Share Posted June 27, 2009 I like it a lot. I don't render much but it would make things a whole lot easier. Quote My Gallery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flow55 Posted June 27, 2009 Share Posted June 27, 2009 I like it a lot. I don't render much but it would make things a whole lot easier. Quote My Gallery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soul41 Posted June 27, 2009 Share Posted June 27, 2009 IIRC, I think Simon made a plugin that let you see alpha mask results instantly. Edit: Here it is: viewtopic.php?f=16&t=24191 However, it does not allow for use with the line tool, so maybe that could be requested as possible feature. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soul41 Posted June 27, 2009 Share Posted June 27, 2009 IIRC, I think Simon made a plugin that let you see alpha mask results instantly. Edit: Here it is: viewtopic.php?f=16&t=24191 However, it does not allow for use with the line tool, so maybe that could be requested as possible feature. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soul41 Posted June 27, 2009 Share Posted June 27, 2009 IIRC, I think Simon made a plugin that let you see alpha mask results instantly. Edit: Here it is: viewtopic.php?f=16&t=24191 However, it does not allow for use with the line tool, so maybe that could be requested as possible feature. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soul41 Posted June 27, 2009 Share Posted June 27, 2009 IIRC, I think Simon made a plugin that let you see alpha mask results instantly. Edit: Here it is: viewtopic.php?f=16&t=24191 However, it does not allow for use with the line tool, so maybe that could be requested as possible feature. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blooper Posted June 27, 2009 Author Share Posted June 27, 2009 Yeah, but editing the mask on the spot is always tough with just the round brush. Especially considering it's aliased. Quote http://synthastic.deviantart.com http://soundcloud.com/siderealenterprise Lockerz invites are available, PM me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blooper Posted June 27, 2009 Author Share Posted June 27, 2009 Yeah, but editing the mask on the spot is always tough with just the round brush. Especially considering it's aliased. Quote http://synthastic.deviantart.com http://soundcloud.com/siderealenterprise Lockerz invites are available, PM me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blooper Posted June 27, 2009 Author Share Posted June 27, 2009 Yeah, but editing the mask on the spot is always tough with just the round brush. Especially considering it's aliased. Quote http://synthastic.deviantart.com http://soundcloud.com/siderealenterprise Lockerz invites are available, PM me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blooper Posted June 27, 2009 Author Share Posted June 27, 2009 Yeah, but editing the mask on the spot is always tough with just the round brush. Especially considering it's aliased. Quote http://synthastic.deviantart.com http://soundcloud.com/siderealenterprise Lockerz invites are available, PM me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kemaru Posted June 28, 2009 Share Posted June 28, 2009 I have a solution that might work. Try setting the color opacity to 0, then set the blending to :OverwriteBlending: . I'm opening PDN at the moment to see if it works. E: It works but it's aliased... Quote Hatred does not cease by hatred, but only by love; this is the eternal rule. |fb(page)|portfolio|blog| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kemaru Posted June 28, 2009 Share Posted June 28, 2009 I have a solution that might work. Try setting the color opacity to 0, then set the blending to :OverwriteBlending: . I'm opening PDN at the moment to see if it works. E: It works but it's aliased... Quote Hatred does not cease by hatred, but only by love; this is the eternal rule. |fb(page)|portfolio|blog| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kemaru Posted June 28, 2009 Share Posted June 28, 2009 I have a solution that might work. Try setting the color opacity to 0, then set the blending to :OverwriteBlending: . I'm opening PDN at the moment to see if it works. E: It works but it's aliased... Quote Hatred does not cease by hatred, but only by love; this is the eternal rule. |fb(page)|portfolio|blog| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kemaru Posted June 28, 2009 Share Posted June 28, 2009 I have a solution that might work. Try setting the color opacity to 0, then set the blending to :OverwriteBlending: . I'm opening PDN at the moment to see if it works. E: It works but it's aliased... Quote Hatred does not cease by hatred, but only by love; this is the eternal rule. |fb(page)|portfolio|blog| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benji2 Posted June 28, 2009 Share Posted June 28, 2009 I have a solution that might work. Try setting the color opacity to 0, then set the blending to :OverwriteBlending: . I'm opening PDN at the moment to see if it works.E: It works but it's aliased... Thats exactly what I tried as well. Blooper has a point. I think he has a good idea but it can build* on. We just need an easier and effective way to cut out images. Edit: Try using a new layer and pic a smart blending mode, color, and opacity level. (on a dark picture use a light color with lighten blending mode with a fairly low opacity so you can see what your cutting out) That might work for a basic way to cut out images Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benji2 Posted June 28, 2009 Share Posted June 28, 2009 I have a solution that might work. Try setting the color opacity to 0, then set the blending to :OverwriteBlending: . I'm opening PDN at the moment to see if it works.E: It works but it's aliased... Thats exactly what I tried as well. Blooper has a point. I think he has a good idea but it can build* on. We just need an easier and effective way to cut out images. Edit: Try using a new layer and pic a smart blending mode, color, and opacity level. (on a dark picture use a light color with lighten blending mode with a fairly low opacity so you can see what your cutting out) That might work for a basic way to cut out images Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benji2 Posted June 28, 2009 Share Posted June 28, 2009 I have a solution that might work. Try setting the color opacity to 0, then set the blending to :OverwriteBlending: . I'm opening PDN at the moment to see if it works.E: It works but it's aliased... Thats exactly what I tried as well. Blooper has a point. I think he has a good idea but it can build* on. We just need an easier and effective way to cut out images. Edit: Try using a new layer and pic a smart blending mode, color, and opacity level. (on a dark picture use a light color with lighten blending mode with a fairly low opacity so you can see what your cutting out) That might work for a basic way to cut out images Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benji2 Posted June 28, 2009 Share Posted June 28, 2009 I have a solution that might work. Try setting the color opacity to 0, then set the blending to :OverwriteBlending: . I'm opening PDN at the moment to see if it works.E: It works but it's aliased... Thats exactly what I tried as well. Blooper has a point. I think he has a good idea but it can build* on. We just need an easier and effective way to cut out images. Edit: Try using a new layer and pic a smart blending mode, color, and opacity level. (on a dark picture use a light color with lighten blending mode with a fairly low opacity so you can see what your cutting out) That might work for a basic way to cut out images Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blooper Posted June 28, 2009 Author Share Posted June 28, 2009 I usually do, I generally use magenta and the negation blend mode, but you can never be sure if what you're doing is going to look right. Quote http://synthastic.deviantart.com http://soundcloud.com/siderealenterprise Lockerz invites are available, PM me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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