johnathanamber Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 Hey, Personal Note: I am just asking honest questions here... no reason to get upset or mad... I am just asking. I love using Paint.NET. It is a great program. I suggest it to everyone who uses Photoshop or who likes Photoshop. Several of my friends have actually converted because it is more versatile with plug ins and such. And if I new the programming language I would participate. I did use Windows. It was easy and most of my sysadmin experience is in Windows Platforms. But I've switched. Mostly because I was tired of having to buy a new OS every several years, I moved to Ubuntu 9.10. I like it and it works well. I can get most anything to work on it... change anything I want... and a plethora of software is available and free... a truly American OS if you ask me... except Paint.NET doesn't work. This was no surprise. Still working on getting this... well... working. Because I love using it. Yes Paint.NET is free... but Windows isn't. I don't want to continue with the price tag to continue running Paint.NET. This i nothing against Paint.NET BTW... you can run it on whatever OS you want. I just hate to have to switch to another, non-user friendly, less intuitive alternative. All that is related to my question.... my question is this... What is this fervour to not allow a port to Linux? Mac I can understand to some degree.... but Linux? It is strictly because Rick, yourself, wants to control the core source code and not allow anyone the ability to write a version in Linux or any other OS? Or is it because you don't want anyone else messing with it? Because of it your baby... just a metaphor. Or is it just that you are tired of all the Linux questions? On that same note; wouldn't it be a good thing that others are wanting to use Paint.NET? It would seem to me that if a large amount of people want to use Paint.NET in Linux, that it would be nothing but a good thing for Paint.NET to have a port to Linux. You can easily assign people to write the code for the port. So you don't have to be completely away from the source code, but at the same time allow others to write the port. All you have to do is monitor it. More publicity as a 'good Samaritan' as to allow multiple platforms to run your great software. I saw your posting about making 'some' of the code available from the newer 3.5 version available to others. But you seemed pretty serious about not letting anyone touch the source code to create a working version in anything but Windows. I just don't understand why it is such a bad thing. Thank you and God bless, Johnathan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Brewster Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 Please read the rules and change the title of your thread. Quote The Paint.NET Blog: https://blog.getpaint.net/ Donations are always appreciated! https://www.getpaint.net/donate.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnathanamber Posted November 12, 2009 Author Share Posted November 12, 2009 Please read the rules and change the title of your thread. Will that suffice? We are taking this stance in order to focus on the best quality and support for the platform that we develop on: Windows with .NET. So that is the reasoning? I still think part of my question is viable... the part about why it is closed for anyone else to do the coding and other just monitor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Brewster Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 ... a truly American OS if you ask me ...Huh? "America" ... and, btw, I assume you mean the United States of America, and not the entirety of the North and South American continents and other surrounding regions ... wasn't founded on freebies and socialism. I believe you have your history and metaphors mixed up.Past that ... jeez. Your post is just too much -- you do not understand the issues at all. And it's clear you haven't done a lick of research on either my blog or here on the forum in an honest attempt to figure it out before dumping diatribes and insulting questions on me. I had some stuff written up but to be honest it's unsalvageable without coming across the wrong way. Quote The Paint.NET Blog: https://blog.getpaint.net/ Donations are always appreciated! https://www.getpaint.net/donate.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnathanamber Posted November 12, 2009 Author Share Posted November 12, 2009 ?!?!? I am confused... socialism... nah... I was meaning a giving nation... we are a giving nation... obviously we need to get paid for everything... that is part of capitalism... but we do give a as well. It is part of being Americans... yes United States of America... Americans... to get paid for our work... but to also give. Wow, i wasn't meaning for this to be insulting et al... let alone make you think I was trying to insult anyone or anything... I have been on the site a ton of times... given not much on the blog... but still... Honestly to me it seems insulting to think that I was trying to insult anyone or anything. Instead of just asking a question. On the blog and such of what I have read... I see this unending desire to say no to Linux. So I psoted. So, you're response: it is insulting to ask my question and to read your blog instead of getting answer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Brewster Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 Actually I think your questions may stem from an incorrectly assumed premise. Let me explain ... It sounds like you believe I am actively preventing a Linux port, and/or that I am opposed to such a thing. Both are untrue. I was perfectly happy to let Miguel and crew port Paint.NET to Linux. The only requirement I put on them was that they couldn't use the same name, for trademark reasons. So they called it paint-mono and they made a lot of progress with it, but overall the project has languished, and it doesn't really work. Everyone wants to use it, but nobody wants to contribute. I am not involved in any Linux porting work, nor will I be. I don't use Linux. I don't want to use Linux. You chose Ubuntu, and I chose Windows. I'm not going to use my spare time for something I won't enjoy. You can easily assign people to write the code for the port ... All you have to do is monitor it. Umm, not quite. Paint.NET isn't some big corporation with managers and employees and Christmas bonuses. It's just me. I don't want to go hunting for and interviewing a group of people to manage some Linux port. I don't have the time for that, and I'm not going to make the time. I do Paint.NET in my spare time, and have a full time job that keeps me plenty occupied. And, objectively, it'd just be bad business. It would cost a bunch of money (either real cash or in opportunity cost) and grow the user base by only a very small amount. The paint-mono project was "the community's" chance to have Paint.NET on Linux, and they dropped the ball. Go ask them about a Linux port. Closing the source for Paint.NET (or rather, discontinuing the release of source code) wasn't about Linux at all. Quote The Paint.NET Blog: https://blog.getpaint.net/ Donations are always appreciated! https://www.getpaint.net/donate.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnathanamber Posted November 13, 2009 Author Share Posted November 13, 2009 Rick, Thank you very very much for clearing that up. It makes perfect sense. I understand what it means to be the only one working on a project.... and people are asking for updates and new code. It is very stressful. I work on developing websites so I do understand from a developer POV. It does surprise me that no one else is working with you on the project. The Windows side of things I mean. Further more that no one is working on the Linux port. Maybe I can see about getting some people to get involved. I would think that those who actually want to program would offer their services. Thank you and God bless, Johnathan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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