Thanks guys. I did find a gif to apng converter but then it isn't compatible with Photobucket, I tried it on a couple other forums and I get a non compatible format error. I will slide on over to the Image Hospital area for further questions. That's the look I was trying for, neon light. Took me probably 8 tries before I was happy with it. I also added one of the first sigs I made. I stumbled upon PDN by accident looking for a replacement for MS Paint.....haven't looked back since.