CircleBox

Understandable. Probably a feature you can change to your liking in PDN 6.x. I've been using PDN for so long it's a thing I never really questioned or noticed the redundancy, if that's what you want to call it.

I only did a small test myself earlier, and '3.156' and '3.16' seemed to produce the same rotation. i think it's rounding?

Nah BoltBait got it. My wording was confusing! Thanks for the info, I missed it.

To piggy back on the subject is the only way to move the active layer to click it? IE moving from layer 3 to 4 so I can pick a color on 4, then move back to 3 so I can fill in a shape on 3. Then I have to go back to 4 to pick the color again, back to 3 to fill. So on and so forth. It's a lot of clicking, and I didn't find any hot keys in the documentation. Thank you.

Remove BG is great. I also use a remove BG plugin on Automatic1111 occasionally. I've had the most success with TR's Alphacutter.

Circle Text could potentially aid you in this process. You'd still be following Lemonade's steps but with a little assistance from CircleText. I couldn't find a topic on this through the search feature, and the Plugin Browser brought me to the japanese page. http://paintnet.web.fc2.com/plugin/dpy/circletext.htm CircleText.dll

I tend to use AA's Assistant a lot as it add's anti aliasing to the object. Same deal as Bolt's. http://paintnet.web.fc2.com/plugin/dpy/aaassistant.htm

A bit scared to necro bump that thread. does that plug in still work? has TR ever returned or did he go MIA?

Heyy, there you go man! Glad you got it! Haha! Glad I could give you a hand!

So just to be clear, you want to select up until the grey line in the zoomed in portion? And the wand tolerance is making that impossible? Just want to make sure I understand. I def understand the wand being too little and then suddenly way too much, haha. edit: this is just using the outline tool and selecting the outside alpha, and hitting cntrl + I to select the invert, which i then made disappear. some of your layers are made as overlays and show up underneath the background. with grey

I think I've read this topic before and I dont want to speak as a matter of fact but I don't think it's possible. You could always make a layre on top using a line, then select that line, and keep the outline selected to use on the layre you need it on. Sort of a work around. TR's Alpha Cutter also could do something similar by selecting outside the lines you are looking for. Edit: Work around idea 2: Wand the selection you want. Make it a new layre. Use "Outline Object" Select the outline object Use that selection for the original purpose Maybe that could help

So I can recreate the crash. Just use the 'Adjustments - Situational Hue/Saturation' and click around the values. All I am doing is moving the sliders. I'm guessing it has to do with how long you leave the window open (it takes about 1 to 2 minutes) or possibly because I'm clicking below the slider, and it's moving the slider while you click the bar. Not sure!

Seeing as I am working directly with text I figured it was relevant.

2nd crash within 24 hours. First crash was on a really bad PC, but this one has an RTX 3060 (12gig VRAM). Seems like that's more than enough to not trigger an out of memory on my end, but maybe it is.

Ayo my homies, is there anyway to fix this without starting over? It's basically the only white in the whole picture and I can just change the white only but I can't seem to figure out how. If it were just this little bit I would use the fill tool but I have a whole lot more text, think paragraphs. edit: oh dang you know what I forgot about this tool. thanks for the documentation. https://www.getpaint.net/doc/latest/RecolorTool.html#12