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Re: LWChris explanation: Well consider this: just because you can explain it, define it and relate it, doesn't make it a good idea or name. I still think it's a terrible name for a product, but to give us some perspective consider these two gems from World-Class Marketing Powerhouses : Pepsi's slogan "Pepsi Brings You Back to Life" was debuted in China as "Pepsi Brings You Back from the Grave." Coca-Cola's brand name, when first marketed in China, was sometimes translated as "Bite The Wax Tadpole." So I guess the name won't kill your chances...however, note that in each case they re-named again!

Doesn't it work that the extention selected to save as determines presence or absence of layers? Just save as "samefilename"+b!

I thought it was just being pinned to the toolbar that made it not launch, but now every start it just hangs up then fails to run. I've installed the new version twice now, same result. W10 pro 64 bit. Any thoughts? Thanks. see my post below for details - it was actually a failing HDD.

Well, I uninstalled it completely and rebooted and DLd and re-installed, and so far it launches ok from the taskbar. So no insights into why it behaved like that.

well obviously not. Since I never heard this stuff, and I asked a friend and they hadn't, I guess one needs to know quite a deal more than you assume. Thanks.

I have always had PDN pinned to the taskbar. It won't launch from there now. I unpinned it. I restarted. I repinned it. It still won't launch. W10 pro 64bit- any thoughts?

That is the page where i got the pdf. It was not linked. You don't get it. There is a helter-skelter shotgun approach to these things. Offering links in forums is an inferior way to do it; it is confusing, time-consuming, frustrating way to do business. I get the whole community idea thing, but too many choice, too much info spread over too many areas. It's all in messages, and then quoted messages and then, more. So thanks for the left-handed info mr gameroftheyear; not helpful, but indicative of how an outsider's opinions are received here. Merry Xmas.

nice button...it doesn't work though!

p.s. When I was doing Internet marketing, Google offered me the ability to display my product ads directly opposite any search that contained my product's keywords; if they still do that it's something to consider; the cost was small then, but then also we made a profit on sales, so it wais a different animal. Having a legitimate ad appear with the search was a way to insure customers would go to our site, and not competitors, and since the links were the same, it validated the link.

I'd like to point out a small point in that the name "paint.net" sounds FAKE! Who names a product with a DOT in it? I know too late now, but really an interesting marketing decision in my opinion; it makes a cautious person encountering the name for the first time to think "scam?" I'm the type of person who wants to go to a real-looking website that offers a direct hyperlink to the file, period; not get it through several links to other links, or off Softonic, or cnet, etc. So there is a mentality that sees a link that looks direct, that works fast and still is NOT real and people will still click through. Smartphones have not helped, as people's thumbs are faster than people's brains. If I recommend the program, and I do all the time, I send them to http://www.dotpdn.com/downloads/pdn.html please tell me that's the real deal; it's the first result of a basic Google search. Thanks.

I DL'd the pdf version of the plug-in list; saw one I was interested in, Ahmed's Plug-ins, and returned to the forum and searched "ahmed" = no results. "Ahmed" however returned the correct result, but only well after I looked for the entry "by hand", scrolling through numerous posts; only when I had found it by that method, did it occur to me to try the capital A in the search. In my opinion, "ahmed" is a superior search than "Ahmed", as it would return the results wanted, capitalized or not. I'm curious if this came up for others when they searched. The reason I ask is your plug-ins are kind of 'hidden', in that they are not on a page or in a hyperlink listing, they are each buried in a post. I understand that is the way you set it up, and I get that the authors can then have control, input and feedback, but it ain't easy to use that way, in my opinion. I'd rather also see a hyperlink text page listing simply organized and scroll-able, searchable. Just a thought. Thanks.

Thanks for comment; mind telling me why you WANT a pop-up window in the way of the very thing you are altering? I cannot think of a single reason you would, and would appreciate the insight. I select the effect and then move it off, always; how else can you see you results, especially if you do not know what settings will work this time. I wonder each time I start why the tools snap to the side but nothing else does! Thanks.

Awesome - thank you so much!

I have trouble getting the selected area to behave; too high a percentage too much is selected; too little and the area frequently contains hundreds of tiny exceptions. When I try to lasso them to include in the selected area, the program grinds to a halt and then does not draw the selection as I desired, it seems to ignore multiple mouse positions, then it is terribly slow in redisplaying the resultant selection. How can I better control this? I have really good system AMD FX-832 8-core,3.5 GHzCPU, 20GB DDR3, nVidia 970 Ti, and lots of storage running on W10 pro 64bit, so I don't think it is a hardware issue. Is this just the way the tools behave? I often work with images that are not sharply in focus, or with precisely defined edges, and often the work areas are multi-colored areas, so I understand the hundreds of little exceptions in the selected area, but clearing them up and controlling the selection is a problem. Thanks.

Well, couldn't a simple override snap all windows to the border? Just a thought. Thanks for the great explanation - much, much better than just nope! I do appreciate all the effort put into this program, and if I could I'd support it; hard to do at 70, alone on SS - for instance my monthly food benefit is $76... so I spend a lot of time on the PC drawing things like big meals, warm rooms, and nice clothes! Happy Holidays! If you have a sec, I just installed the update, but can't find where the update notes are - what happened in this update? Thanks again.

My worktime in PAINT would be significantly reduced if you made one, simple change: make it so that all dialog boxes can be forced to pop-up OUTSIDE the image. Most all dialog boxes (windows in which you adjust/apply things to your image) appear totally in the way. You cannot see the application unless you reposition the box. It has to be a simple thing to do in the code, just let me control the display offset; or snap it to the border of the program window. Think about it - a single adjustment - no more moving the window every single time you make any adjustment; when if it appeared out of the way, you could see immediately every time you used any tool! I am forever moving the darn windows because I want to SEE the effect, and seeing the entire image is crucial to judging the result of the application. Is that too much to ask; I think it is a GREAT idea and will speed up everyone's experience in the program. Agree?

Just to be clear, I had the rectangle select on default - didn't know you could change it, thanks. 16% is too low to detect pixels? Interesting; I think it can be worse than that as just before coming here I could not get a 30% magic wand to select more than one pixel, in a field of grays - sweatpants actually... Also I still get that weird effect when selecting all then move selected pixel tool, on a SINGLE layer image when I drag the right side left, the original layer shrinks but also remains AS IS underneath. I have pix of that now. What I am led to conclude is that PAINT still has some algorithm issues, and after awhile it's just best to restart the program. When I works with hundreds of files at some point the errors begin and don't correct, so it is just easy to restart. I think it is still helpful to report these things so that maybe it points to how to improve the program. My dream is that one day it will support brushes ala PS...

RE: tools not working properly. I created an image by opening a picture and copying and pasting part of the image into a new layer for each copy/paste to create a group from a single person. I merged them down into one layer after moving them around a bit. I applied the ink sketch effect and turned it up until the background (white) flipped over, and then dialed back to white. After that nothing worked. I could not apply any tool or effect, period. I tried it again with a totally new file, same steps, and same outcome, once merged down, the final layer was untouchable; select an area and when you release the tool disappears. Magic wand - nothing, a single point (16% hardness) A reboot fixed it. That didn't help you much, but I feel a little better. good luck.

I have thousands of images I want to save in a specific jpg format: they need to end up 1680x1050 with a black background. If they do not fill the image area. In most case I would prefer oversized images to have at least one dimension reduced to the target and that dimension will make the other dimension smaller than the target (2000x4000 --> 525x1050 then centered on a black 1680x1050. I have very large images (5200x3250) all the way down to very small images (250x250). I do not mind if it is two steps, but is one possible? Is any of it possible? So far I do each one individually by hand in paint and it takes f-o-r-e-v-e-r. Any ideas would help. I do have Faststone photo resizer, which will only bring them closer to the 1680x1050; it misses some, ignores some but otherwise is a good batched first step; it sorts out/creates many perfectly-sized images, doesn't make a border, but has nice adjustments for compression and other options. Thanks!