[PDN 3.0 BUG: 0x0 selection!?]

Is the new image the same size as the old one or larger/smaller?

[PDN 3.0 BUG: 0x0 selection!?]

On my copy (English version) the first set of coordinates is the upper left corner of the selection. The bounding rectangle size changes as the image moves on or off the new canvas.

So it seems to work properly for me. I'll post an image if you would like.

My status bar looks like this:

Selection top left: 0, 0. Bounding rectangle size: 115 x 116. Area: 13,340 pixels square

[Paint.NET v3.0 Beta 1 is now available]

Maybe this should go in bugs, but when trying to update I click Install and the message box says 404 Not Found.

Windows XP SP2.

Maybe I'll try later.

Never mind. It's going now.

[Paint.NET v3.0 Beta 1 is now available]

Right-clicking on a color in the palette will now set the secondary color

Thank you! That is awesome!

I know it was requested here several times; I think it is one of those "expected" behaviors from other paint programs. I'll update right now...

[3.0 Logo on Forum]

I didn't even notice that the 3.0 forum had gone missing...

Looking forward to the beta!

[Feature request: ability to define selection size]

Yeah, that's what I was doing before I answered your question and started thinking more about it. I would have to zoom in and fine-adjust to get the dimensions just right. Otherwise the selection size would be off by one or two pixels. Your idea is intuitive for sure, mine is just quicker once it is realized.

I've got a lot of pictures that I have to crop to the same size in the interim but I can't use an automatic tool because my object of interest is not exactly centered in each of them. Fortunately by using 3.0, the paste operation puts my object of interest (which is close to center) near the middle of the frame anyway so it isn't that hard to adjust.

I'm glad you asked your question because even my answer doesn't fulfill your needs exactly, it gave me a better solution to my own problem.

[Feature request: ability to define selection size]

f, did you read my (interim) solution to your problem above?

[Feature request: ability to define selection size]

Open the image you are interested in. Select all and copy.

Create a new image and set your canvas size. Paste the image. No, do not expand the canvas to the image size.

In 2.72, you can see the borders of the selection and move the selection around. In 3.0a3, I couldn't see the selection rectangle but it centered the image and I could still move it around.

Does that help?

[Downloading Source code from behind firewall]

Remove the Coral stuff from the URL; download from http://www.getpaint.net/files/zip/pdn_src_2_72.zip

Don't do this unless you have problems; Rick has set it up this way to lower the bandwidth.

I had problems downloading it at work and at home until I did this, so it isn't just the paranoid military network.

Keep the faith, brother, and stay safe.

TinSoldier

Desert Storm veteran 1991

Iraqi Freedom veteran 2003-2004

[The Pictorium! Post your created or edited images here!]

It reminds me of Sauron in the Lord of the Rings movies.

[Pen Limitations/General Tool Qualms]

Hmm, yeah.

I also find the lack of merging layers kindof limiting. You can only merge everything or nothing.

3.0 Alpha 3 has a feature where you can merge two layers together without merging the rest of them. It's called, unsurprisingly, "merge down".

Add a more standard noise distortion filter and a rotoscoping, or "filmstrip" capability along with the other things and you pretty much have the ultimate image editor.

Yes yes, rome wasn't built in a day I know.

A lot of this stuff could probably be done with plugins. Have you thought about writing them yourself?

I need to play with learning how to do plugins as well.

[Pen Limitations/General Tool Qualms]

Thought on feathering: If Rick does improve the brush to have that feature, would it make sense to link it to the tolerance value?

[Pen Limitations/General Tool Qualms]

Thanks for the explanation.

One thing you might try is BoltBait's Feather Plugin. It only works at the edge between a color and transparent but I use it to smooth edges when I cut pictures out of a background. If you draw your lines on their own layer then you might be able to get the effect you want.

Not perfect, but still pretty good.

[Pen Limitations/General Tool Qualms]

What's the difference between feathering and anti-aliasing with the paint brush?

[Help with magic wand ^^]

That came out pretty good!

[Help with magic wand ^^]

You are doing exactly what I'm doing (only you finished first ! )

Now, grab BoltBait's Feather plugin and use it on your image. It will smooth out the edges.

Edit: After feathering.

[Help with magic wand ^^]

I'm playing with this picture right now, but I don't think the magic wand is the tool for this job. I think you want to first select a large rectangle at the top and then use ctrl-select to add onto your selections. Then you can cut out the bits that you have selected and zoom in and erase the remaining bits.

You could probably use the lasso tool for the remaining bits, but personally I'm not good with making the lasso do what I want it to.

Even using the Outline effect of 3.0 you do not really get a wide swath of a single similar color for using the magic wand.

[Seamless Texture Helper Plugin]

I don't understand step 4 very well; you just added some more coins to your image on different layers? Is that correct?

[Which effects or plugins do you use most often?]

Cool. I missed the centered part of your reply. That makes sense!

[Which effects or plugins do you use most often?]

I use BoltBaits gradient all the time. I mostly use it to make circles that are centered on my canvas. I know that sounds weird but its true.

How do you do that?

One trick I've learned for placing circles accurately is to place a rectangular selection where I want it first. Or just using a elliptical selection, moving it, and then filling it (but then it's a little jaggedy).

[The Pictorium! Post your created or edited images here!]

Heh. I could see that blown up to poster size, velvet, with a black light somewhere in the room; some incense burning and Pink Floyd playing in the background...

[Which effects or plugins do you use most often?]

For your editing/creations, which effects or plugins do you use most often?

I'm mostly doing avatar work right now. I find myself using the new Outline effect in 3.0 and BoltBait's most excellent Feather Plugin.

[Effect Request: Polar to rectangle]

Yeah, I wondered about that one...

[PNG file size]

There is something going on here...

I took a PNG file that I had created in PDN earlier (part of a comic snipped from a jpeg) and once I was done doing everything, it's filesize when saved as a PNG was 18473 bytes.

Later, I opened the file and saved it (without changing anything except the pathname) and it was 19067 bytes. Subsequently saving the file gave the same result; it did not continue to increase in size.

I noticed the files had metadata added saying Paint.NET v3.0. The original did not have that.

But that leaves about 580 bytes unaccounted for.

Also, for those not afraid of the command line, I've found pngUtils which can help shrink your PNG files. Most useful was pngquant which can take your 24-bit PNG file and make it an 8-bit pallette indexed file.

[Save as GIF settings]

Can anyone explain to me exactly what the "Transparency threshold" and "Dithering level" sliders and the "Multiply by Alpha Channel" checkbox do when saving as GIF?

I've adjusted the transparency level and I sometimes see the results both in the preview and and in the final product, but I would like to be able to understand it better.

The other two options I have very little clue about.