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Crazy Man Dan: I used the optiPNG plugin with the alpha turned on, which was slightly bigger, but I need the alpha if possible. Using the Curves+ plug-in is a helpful way to get rid of the 0-5% opaque areas, which are just there as a result of clumsiness, and aren't needed at all. BoltBait's Transparency plug-in does similar by sticking down the transparency, and then duplicating the layer. (resulting in the low opacity areas being dropped). Using a mix of these suggested tools does result in the images down to 25% of the file size though which is great, and the images are bearable in a browser not displaying the alpha layer. I have got some test files as I wanted, but it takes a few more clicks than I hoped for. By v4.0 hopefully it can be stuck as an action (I forget the name used for paint.nets proposal), and that will make the complexity of getting an effect repeatedly hardly an issue once you have got it once. Thanks for all the links to things. Once you read them it seems obvious, but I find, until you know what your looking for, it's sometimes hard to search for it!

Bingo, that doesn't exactly what I needed. Thank you very much for that link, and thanks to "I Like Pi" for making that plug-in! Just tested a few images, and it removes the rubbish fine. I'm still not entirely clear how I got them how they are, as I made them quite some time ago, but this allows them to be quickly sorted, so that no longer really matters. bye!

The speed of these replies is crazy, thanks a lot. I obviously didn't make it clear enough what I meant, sorry about that..i tried! I have made an image, because I'm not particularly good at describing things! Sorry about sticking 'help' in the title, I just assumed I should be specific in the general area. I'm not always entirely clear why, or when, I end up with a lot of invisible rubbish...but I have a lot of sprites that I am trying to keep as small as possible and also there are elements that I wish to remove for various reasons. But in opening them into MSpaint I noticed that there is all this clutter, but there is no easy way that I can see of removing it. (in the example attached it would be easy as its 100% and 0% opaque, but usually this isn't so) In the example I have the file opened to paint.net, then it opened to MSpaint, and then how I wish to open it in MSpaint and see it. Pyrochild: Your answer in explaining what I meant is basically correct. I'm not specifically trying to remove the transparent pixels entirely, but rather just blank them. I have no idea how the file saving works, but if there is a colour that is default and therefore doesn't need stating then to make it that colour would be good. cheers,

Hi, I've looked around, but can't find the answer to this, although I've found a lot of conversations on alpha layers so I imagine it's been asked before..but I haven't read it... If I have an image which has an area that is fully transparent, there still appears to be an image in the transparent area, but it just isn't visible. i.e. If I open a .png file into mspaint, the transparent areas suddenly show elements of the image that I wish to remove completely for various reasons. Firstly is there a way of deleting any rgb data for a pixel if the opacity is 0%? (not literally delete, but just make them all 0 or 255, so in effect blank) Secondly, surely if there is an image in areas you don't see this makes images larger in file size than necessary? (for png's for example) Thanks,

I have just heard of this program, and download it, and this is absoultely amazing. Stunning, in every aspect. I have been forced to use photoshop for the last few years and i dislike its interface greatly, and used paint when ever i could. Thanks to this i am getting ever closer to having an adobe free lifestyle. I have been waiting since y5 (so 11 years) for this day to come!... Every Fault with photoshop has gone, and everything paintbrush lacked is now avaliable. I shall, from this day forward be using paint.net for all painting and texturing. Thankyou so much for this. If i ever become more than a student i will donate heavily to this. This sort of productivity is what the world needs. For the time being i think i shall go forth and build a church in Rick Brewster's Honer.... I must too say well done, and thanks, to all who made paint.net... Since i am currently unable to donate i shall go do a rigerous halfhour of pushups on the ad banner instead.