Paint.NET Internet Browser Discussion

[Mike Ryan]

Well, the whole idea started a debate, so I just want to go ahead and test it out.

Welcome

Welcome to the Paint.NET Internet Browser Discussion! Here you can discuss:

-New Announcements

-Cool Addons

-Acid Test Results

-New Web Browsers

-New Web Browser Releases

Please note that this thread differs from the debate thread in many ways, and any large scale debate should be avoided to keep this thread from being locked.

[R3VENGE]

does internet explorer have any add ons??? i know fire fox does cos i have loads

[Mike Ryan]

does internet explorer have any add ons??? i know fire fox does cos i have loads

Not necessarily as well as Firefox has them, though IE7Pro might be worth your interest.

[Simon Brown]

does internet explorer have any add ons??? i know fire fox does cos i have loads

Yes - but it is much simpler to write or find ones for Firefox.

[Simon Brown]

I wish internet explorer had inline find on this page functionality like Firefox.

[Yata]

I guess this is worthy of this thread...

My mother can't pronounce "Firefox" or "Mozilla" correctly. It's "foxfire" mozstilla"...

>_>

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[Sodamaster]

My friend just showed me this download accelerate called downloadthemall! for Mozilla Firefox which he said can increase your download speed by 400%. After testing it it brought my kbs from 330 to 550 so not quite what my friend said it was but still an improvement . I also voted for Mozilla Firefox. 8)

[Mike Ryan]

My friend just showed me this download accelerate called downloadthemall! for Mozilla Firefox which he said can increase your download speed by 400%.

Really? I will have to look for that. I really could use a boost. I am a bit of a download junkie.

[Yata]

I detest download accelorators. They cause so many conflicting issues it makes my head spin.

And I actually tried DownloadThemAll!, and didn't like it.

[Simon Brown]

By the way, here are details of IE8.

[usedHONDA]

I downloaded a VPC version of IE8 (a clean XP Pro install with nothing but IE on it), will be posting screenshots later. So far, there isn't much of a difference in the UI of IE8, with the exception of icons in the context menus (i.e., right-clicking) and easier customization (right-clicking on a toolbar allows you to make the icons bigger and move them around.)

One nice little feature is Pop-Out Maps. Select an address, right click, and place your cursor on the "Map with Live Maps" button, and boom, a map!

As for Acid3... it fails miserably.

[Mike Ryan]

There is one thing I cant wait to see Firefox extended to do: splices. As a somewhat amature website developer (used to great but forgot most of it) splices is very interesting. As for Javascript, IE8 deals with it miserably. I had a nightmere dealing with some pages.

[usedHONDA]

Firefox 3 Beta 4 officially out! I just installed it; shall post Acid test results after restart.

[harold]

Does it still use an unreasonable amount of memory?

[Simon Brown]

Acid test results after restart.

I never restart newly installed software - it is almost never actually needed.

[harold]

Only in some rare cases with drivers and/or other system components.. (except the registry, you can reload it by killing the explorer process)

And what about the memory usage? FireFox used to use an abominable amount of RAM - right now it's using 50MB (firefox 2.0.0.12, which is unfortunately 32 bit)

[Simon Brown]

FireFox used to use an abominable amount of RAM

Hope this helps.

[jerkfight]

FireFox used to use an abominable amount of RAM

Hope this helps.

You forgot the [/url]

[R3VENGE]

Acid test results after restart.

I never restart newly installed software - it is almost never actually needed.

i know everyone is always like dont you need to restart your computer but ive only had about 3 programs that need you to restart

[harold]

this late reply is really needed:

My friend just showed me this download accelerate called downloadthemall! for Mozilla Firefox which he said can increase your download speed by 400%.

It depends on the number of pieces, the upload speed of the server, and whether the server limits the speed per connection, per ip, or not at all and of course it depends on your own download speed. Therefore, such claims hardly make any sense. Download accelerators are only useful when: the server limits speed per-connection AND your download speed (as determined by ISP) is higher than the limit the server places on 1 connection AND the server supports resume AND the file is sufficiently large for it to make a difference (if it only takes a second anyway, there's no sense in trying to speed it up). Many major download sites do not allow resume specifically to break download accelerators - but we already knew they were evil. (I'm sure they had their reasons, and also that those reasons are self-centered and have a lot to do with the price and limit of bandwidth)

btw, it's called DownThemAll!

[Myrddin]

FireFox used to use an abominable amount of RAM

Hope this helps.

These should also help with concern to FF3 memory issues:

Firefox 3 ultimate feature: Performance;

Cycle collector to relieve Firefox memory problems.

I have seen a definite improvement over memory management as I too have conducted my own (extremely crude) experiments using Task Manager.

This line from the blog sums up my conclusions:

Firefox 3 shows better memory management as it freed more memory when a couple of tabs were closed and it kept memory usage flat when not in use.

In fact, the browser has seen over 300 memory leaks plugged across the development thus far [1].

[DarkShock]

FireFox FTW!

[Simon Brown]

In fact, the browser has seen over 300 memory leaks plugged across the development thus far [1].

With such a big program 300 isn't that much - and most of them are probably very small ones.

[Myrddin]

With such a big program 300 isn't that much - and most of them are probably very small ones.

Probably not, no. Never said it was a large number of fixes, though, nor that they were monumental. Just stating that they were 300 so far - giving a figure to quench Harold's thirst for information.

Always covering my tracks.

[Simon Brown]

With such a big program 300 isn't that much - and most of them are probably very small ones.

Probably not, no. Never said it was a large number of fixes, though, nor that they were monumental. Just stating that they were 300 so far - giving a figure to quench Harold's thirst for information.

That seemed to me to be what you implied.