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Hurt and Heal 11: Best World Wonder - Colosseum Wins!

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ARR! Welcome to Hurt and Heal 11!

The Hurt and Heal Game

Now with added crunchiness!

Here's the goal:

Make your favorite choice win, and make your least favorite choice lose. This time, it's a battle of the ages! We want to know what the best modern wonder is, and what the best ancient wonder is. When we have an answer to both, we'll pit them against one another! You know, like the AFC and NFC. (Ancient Football Conference and New Football Conference?)

Winning and Losing:

Winning: The first choice that reaches 100 (or the last choice standing) wins, ending the game.

Losing: As each choice reaches 0, it is removed from the list. It has lost.

NEW: Once only one choice remains in each category, both scores are reset to 50 and the "shootout" begins!

What you do:

NEW: "Hurt" a choice in each category by subtracting 10 from its score.

NEW: "Heal" a choice in each category by adding 5 to its score.

(You must do both of these in each turn)

Rules:

You may only "Hurt and Heal" once each day.

Once a choice reaches 0, it is gone. You may not re-add it to the list. Let it die an honorable death. :-)

The posted scoreboard comprises the only options. You may not add new options. Discussion will be held before each edition of (+/-); discuss choices there.

If someone "beats you" in posting, change your scoreboard to reflect the change. Be courteous.

Keep it on topic. You can talk briefly about how you chose what to hurt and heal, but take any off topic threads to .

Also, if you have any ideas for the theme for the next Hurt & Heal, post them underneath your scoreboard. That'll make prep for the next one easier.

RETURNING PLAYERS: Keep the special rules (highlighted in red) firmly in mind!

Everyone clear? All right!

The theme for this Hurt and Heal Game is...

Best World Wonder (Ancient and Modern)!

Here's the starting scoreboard, presented in alphabetical order according to Wikipedia's list:

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Ancient Wonders:

[50] Great Pyramid of Giza, Egypt

[50] Hanging Gardens of Babylon, Babylon

[50] Lighthouse of Alexandria, Ptolemaic Egypt

[50] Mausoleum of Maussollos at Halicarnassus, Greek Asia

[50] Statue of Zeus at Olympia, Greece

[50] Temple of Artemis at Ephesus, Persia

[50] Colossus of Rhodes, Greece

(RETURNING PLAYERS: Please read the special rules in the first post for this hurt and heal before playing!)

Modern Wonders:

[50] Chichen Itza, Mexico

[50] Christ the Redeemer, Brazil

[50] Colosseum, Italy

[50] Great Wall of China, China

[50] Machu Piccu, Peru

[50] Petra, Jordan

[50] Taj Mahal, India

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Yay!

Ancient Wonders:

[55] Great Pyramid of Giza, Egypt

[40] Hanging Gardens of Babylon, Babylon

[50] Lighthouse of Alexandria, Ptolemaic Egypt

[50] Mausoleum of Maussollos at Halicarnassus, Greek Asia

[50] Statue of Zeus at Olympia, Greece

[50] Temple of Artemis at Ephesus, Persia

[50] Colossus of Rhodes, Greece

(RETURNING PLAYERS: Please read the special rules in the first post for this hurt and heal before playing!)

Modern Wonders:

[50] Chichen Itza, Mexico

[50] Christ the Redeemer, Brazil

[50] Colosseum, Italy

[40] Great Wall of China, China

[50] Machu Piccu, Peru

[50] Petra, Jordan

[55] Taj Mahal, India

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How'd I know ncfan51 would heal the Taj Mahal? ;-)

Ancient Wonders:

[55] Great Pyramid of Giza, Egypt

[40] Hanging Gardens of Babylon, Babylon

[50] Lighthouse of Alexandria, Ptolemaic Egypt

[40] Mausoleum of Maussollos at Halicarnassus, Greek Asia

[50] Statue of Zeus at Olympia, Greece

[50] Temple of Artemis at Ephesus, Persia

[55] Colossus of Rhodes, Greece

(RETURNING PLAYERS: Please read the special rules in the first post for this hurt and heal before playing!)

Modern Wonders:

[50] Chichen Itza, Mexico

[50] Christ the Redeemer, Brazil

[50] Colosseum, Italy

[30] Great Wall of China, China

[50] Machu Piccu, Peru

[55] Petra, Jordan

[55] Taj Mahal, India

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NO STONHENGE!? That's the best one!!

Ancient Wonders:

[60] Great Pyramid of Giza, Egypt

[40] Hanging Gardens of Babylon, Babylon

[40] Lighthouse of Alexandria, Ptolemaic Egypt

[40] Mausoleum of Maussollos at Halicarnassus, Greek Asia

[50] Statue of Zeus at Olympia, Greece

[50] Temple of Artemis at Ephesus, Persia

[55] Colossus of Rhodes, Greece

Modern Wonders:

[50] Chichen Itza, Mexico

[50] Christ the Redeemer, Brazil

[55] Colosseum, Italy

[30] Great Wall of China, China

[50] Machu Piccu, Peru

[45] Petra, Jordan

[55] Taj Mahal, India

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Ancient Wonders:

[60] Great Pyramid of Giza, Egypt

[40] Hanging Gardens of Babylon, Babylon

[40] Lighthouse of Alexandria, Ptolemaic Egypt

[40] Mausoleum of Maussollos at Halicarnassus, Greek Asia

[50] Statue of Zeus at Olympia, Greece

[40] Temple of Artemis at Ephesus, Persia

[60] Colossus of Rhodes, Greece

Modern Wonders:

[40] Chichen Itza, Mexico

[55] Christ the Redeemer, Brazil

[55] Colosseum, Italy

[30] Great Wall of China, China

[50] Machu Piccu, Peru

[45] Petra, Jordan

[55] Taj Mahal, India

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NO STONHENGE!? That's the best one!!

Look at the lists for yourself! Stonehenge appears on none of them. It's not widely considered to be a World Wonder. Don't take it up with me, take it up with history. :-D

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Ancient Wonders:

[60] Great Pyramid of Giza, Egypt

[45] Hanging Gardens of Babylon, Babylon

[40] Lighthouse of Alexandria, Ptolemaic Egypt

[30] Mausoleum of Maussollos at Halicarnassus, Greek Asia

[50] Statue of Zeus at Olympia, Greece

[40] Temple of Artemis at Ephesus, Persia

[60] Colossus of Rhodes, Greece

Modern Wonders:

[30] Chichen Itza, Mexico

[55] Christ the Redeemer, Brazil

[55] Colosseum, Italy

[35] Great Wall of China, China

[50] Machu Piccu, Peru

[45] Petra, Jordan

[55] Taj Mahal, India

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[65] Great Pyramid of Giza, Egypt

[45] Hanging Gardens of Babylon, Babylon

[40] Lighthouse of Alexandria, Ptolemaic Egypt

[20] Mausoleum of Maussollos at Halicarnassus, Greek Asia

[50] Statue of Zeus at Olympia, Greece

[40] Temple of Artemis at Ephesus, Persia

[60] Colossus of Rhodes, Greece

Modern Wonders:

[20] Chichen Itza, Mexico

[55] Christ the Redeemer, Brazil

[55] Colosseum, Italy

[35] Great Wall of China, China

[50] Machu Piccu, Peru

[45] Petra, Jordan

[60] Taj Mahal, India

Wow the most complex H&H:P

there are forgotten wonders...

The Pyramids are a great work with math 8)

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[50] Great Pyramid of Giza, Egypt

[45] Hanging Gardens of Babylon, Babylon

[40] Lighthouse of Alexandria, Ptolemaic Egypt

[30] Mausoleum of Maussollos at Halicarnassus, Greek Asia

[50] Statue of Zeus at Olympia, Greece

[40] Temple of Artemis at Ephesus, Persia

[65] Colossus of Rhodes, Greece

(RETURNING PLAYERS: Please read the special rules in the first post for this hurt and heal before playing!)

Modern Wonders:

[20] Chichen Itza, Mexico

[55] Christ the Redeemer, Brazil

[55] Colosseum, Italy

[35] Great Wall of China, China

[55] Machu Picchu, Peru

[35] Petra, Jordan

[60] Taj Mahal, India

was just at Machu Picchu this past summer, took the Inca Trail there [4 day hike]

we were in Cuzco when they were voting for the new list of wonders, and then after the hike they were celebrating being on the list. huge parade :D

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[55] Great Pyramid of Giza, Egypt

[45] Hanging Gardens of Babylon, Babylon

[40] Lighthouse of Alexandria, Ptolemaic Egypt

[20] Mausoleum of Maussollos at Halicarnassus, Greek Asia

[50] Statue of Zeus at Olympia, Greece

[40] Temple of Artemis at Ephesus, Persia

[65] Colossus of Rhodes, Greece

(RETURNING PLAYERS: Please read the special rules in the first post for this hurt and heal before playing!)

Modern Wonders:

[20] Chichen Itza, Mexico

[55] Christ the Redeemer, Brazil

[55] Colosseum, Italy

[40] Great Wall of China, China

[55] Machu Picchu, Peru

[25] Petra, Jordan

[60] Taj Mahal, India

Couldn't choose what to kill for Ancient. They're all good to me. Or maybe that's just my intelligence kicking in :) And Dark Green doesn't seem to like me today :|

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[55] Great Pyramid of Giza, Egypt

[45] Hanging Gardens of Babylon, Babylon

[45] Lighthouse of Alexandria, Ptolemaic Egypt

[10] Mausoleum of Maussollos at Halicarnassus, Greek Asia

[50] Statue of Zeus at Olympia, Greece

[40] Temple of Artemis at Ephesus, Persia

[65] Colossus of Rhodes, Greece

(RETURNING PLAYERS: Please read the special rules in the first post for this hurt and heal before playing!)

Modern Wonders:

[20] Chichen Itza, Mexico

[45] Christ the Redeemer, Brazil

[55] Colosseum, Italy

[40] Great Wall of China, China

[60] Machu Picchu, Peru

[25] Petra, Jordan

[60] Taj Mahal, India

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I'm not going to explain my choice every time, so I'll get it over with here.

Hard to decide for the Ancient Wonders, so I'll be swapping and changing between the Lighthouse of Alexandria and Colossus of Rhodes - ancient and lost: what could be more intriguing? Although, no Library of Alexandria? I shall be writing a letter of complaint to History for this inconsistency.

Also, Stonehenge is typically considered a Wonder of the Middle Ages, along with the Great Wall of China, so, where's the justice? ;)I conceive something, and it doesn't even get wide recognition. Charming.*

Modern wonders are either too modern (Christ) or not my preferred culture (Chinese), so it's pot-luck to whom I vote for/against. Though, I'll be leaning towards Machu Picchu or the Colosseum mostly.

*Yes, I am perfectly aware of the chronological discrepancies with this claim in the article and in myth.

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Ancient Wonders:

[60] Great Pyramid of Giza, Egypt

[45] Hanging Gardens of Babylon, Babylon

[45] Lighthouse of Alexandria, Ptolemaic Egypt

[0] Mausoleum of Maussollos at Halicarnassus, Greek Asia (DEAD already!)

[50] Statue of Zeus at Olympia, Greece

[40] Temple of Artemis at Ephesus, Persia

[65] Colossus of Rhodes, Greece

(RETURNING PLAYERS: Please read the special rules in the first post for this hurt and heal before playing!)

Modern Wonders:

[20] Chichen Itza, Mexico

[45] Christ the Redeemer, Brazil

[55] Colosseum, Italy

[40] Great Wall of China, China

[50] Machu Picchu, Peru

[30] Petra, Jordan

[60] Taj Mahal, India

As awesome as everything on this list is, the Giza Pyramid has a coolness factor of +10 for the mythos surrounding it. The curse, the aliens, the Stargate...it seems that nothing on this list has captured our collective interest quite like that pyramid. Plus, of course, it's the only one still standing...

I hurt the Mausoleum because I'd never heard of it before.

I agree with Myrddin about the Library, and about Stonehenge. History has forgotten some things, it seems like... 'course, the library would win instantly, so... ;-)

Modern stuff: Machu Piccu is fascinating, I do not deny. However, it's high enough that I can justify its hurting. And there's nothing else I really wanted to hurt...

Petra has always fascinated me. When you add in the fact that it was where part of Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade was filmed...well, I have to vote for it!

(and, like Myrddin, I'm not going to keep explaining this further.)

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Ancient Wonders:

[60] Great Pyramid of Giza, Egypt

[45] Hanging Gardens of Babylon, Babylon

[50] Lighthouse of Alexandria, Ptolemaic Egypt

[0] Mausoleum of Maussollos at Halicarnassus, Greek Asia (DEAD already!)

[45] Statue of Zeus at Olympia, Greece

[40] Temple of Artemis at Ephesus, Persia

[65] Colossus of Rhodes, Greece

(RETURNING PLAYERS: Please read the special rules in the first post for this hurt and heal before playing!)

Modern Wonders:

[20] Chichen Itza, Mexico

[45] Christ the Redeemer, Brazil

[60] Colosseum, Italy

[35] Great Wall of China, China

[50] Machu Picchu, Peru

[30] Petra, Jordan

[60] Taj Mahal, India

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Ancient Wonders:

[65] Great Pyramid of Giza, Egypt

[35] Hanging Gardens of Babylon, Babylon

[50] Lighthouse of Alexandria, Ptolemaic Egypt

[45] Statue of Zeus at Olympia, Greece

[40] Temple of Artemis at Ephesus, Persia

[65] Colossus of Rhodes, Greece

(RETURNING PLAYERS: Please read the special rules in the first post for this hurt and heal before playing!)

Modern Wonders:

[20] Chichen Itza, Mexico

[45] Christ the Redeemer, Brazil

[60] Colosseum, Italy

[40] Great Wall of China, China

[50] Machu Picchu, Peru

[30] Petra, Jordan

[50] Taj Mahal, India

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Ancient Wonders:

[65] Great Pyramid of Giza, Egypt

[25] Hanging Gardens of Babylon, Babylon

[55] Lighthouse of Alexandria, Ptolemaic Egypt

[45] Statue of Zeus at Olympia, Greece

[40] Temple of Artemis at Ephesus, Persia

[65] Colossus of Rhodes, Greece

(RETURNING PLAYERS: Please read the special rules in the first post for this hurt and heal before playing!)

Modern Wonders:

[20] Chichen Itza, Mexico

[45] Christ the Redeemer, Brazil

[65] Colosseum, Italy

[30] Great Wall of China, China

[50] Machu Picchu, Peru

[30] Petra, Jordan

[50] Taj Mahal, India

I had to do a report on the Hanging Gardens for a teacher that I HATED when I was in the younger grades...worst experience of my social studies life...And I've been to the Colosseum in Italy, it is so amazing...and it better win! hehehe...

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Ancient Wonders:

[65] Great Pyramid of Giza, Egypt

[30] Hanging Gardens of Babylon, Babylon

[55] Lighthouse of Alexandria, Ptolemaic Egypt

[45] Statue of Zeus at Olympia, Greece

[30] Temple of Artemis at Ephesus, Persia

[65] Colossus of Rhodes, Greece

(RETURNING PLAYERS: Please read the special rules in the first post for this hurt and heal before playing!)

Modern Wonders:

[10] Chichen Itza, Mexico

[45] Christ the Redeemer, Brazil

[65] Colosseum, Italy

[35] Great Wall of China, China

[50] Machu Picchu, Peru

[30] Petra, Jordan

[50] Taj Mahal, India

Ancient -: Ancient goddess's temple? Meh.

Ancient +: Gardens are awesome. This one must have been impressive.

Modern -: The Maya were creepy. <_<

Modern +: Why hurt the great wall? It's incredible! Beautiful, too.

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I fixed Helio's mistake. He accidentally added 5 points to the Taj for no reason.

Ancient Wonders:

[65] Great Pyramid of Giza, Egypt

[30] Hanging Gardens of Babylon, Babylon

[45] Lighthouse of Alexandria, Ptolemaic Egypt

[50] Statue of Zeus at Olympia, Greece

[30] Temple of Artemis at Ephesus, Persia

[65] Colossus of Rhodes, Greece

(RETURNING PLAYERS: Please read the special rules in the first post for this hurt and heal before playing!)

Modern Wonders:

[10] Chichen Itza, Mexico

[35] Christ the Redeemer, Brazil

[65] Colosseum, Italy

[35] Great Wall of China, China

[50] Machu Picchu, Peru

[30] Petra, Jordan

[55] Taj Mahal, India

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I fixed Helio's mistake. He accidentally added 5 points to the Taj for no reason.

And you added to Chichen Itza, Mexico for no reason.

I guess it's easy to do. :P

(But, I see you've fixed it now.)

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I fixed Helio's mistake. He accidentally added 5 points to the Taj for no reason. ...

Good catch! I was going to add to it, but then decided to heal the G.W... and then forgot to subtract the five that I had added to the Taj.

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[55] Great Pyramid of Giza, Egypt

[30] Hanging Gardens of Babylon, Babylon

[45] Lighthouse of Alexandria, Ptolemaic Egypt

[50] Statue of Zeus at Olympia, Greece

[30] Temple of Artemis at Ephesus, Persia

[70] Colossus of Rhodes, Greece

(RETURNING PLAYERS: Please read the special rules in the first post for this hurt and heal before playing!)

Modern Wonders:

[10] Chichen Itza, Mexico

[35] Christ the Redeemer, Brazil

[65] Colosseum, Italy

[25] Great Wall of China, China

[55] Machu Picchu, Peru

[30] Petra, Jordan

[55] Taj Mahal, India

Great Wall? Sure you can see it from space but it's not too interesting to me [compared to the others]. gogo Machu Picchu! :mrgreen:

Oh and I was just at Chichen Itza over christmas, it was pretty awesome, but not as cool as others on this list.

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