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@ DtheArtist: It's alright to quote a comment with a small amount or little pictures, but don't quote a post with so much pictures. :wink:

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I was probably the one he was referring to. I find C4D's cheating. You didnt make them in Paint.net, so they aren't 100% paint.net. Even if alter the C4D, it is still not something you made in paint.net. I believe to have something 100% Paint.net, you need to have nothing but Paint.net backgrounds. Having images or renders are fine, as long as they are not C4D's. I find them cheating. They are not your work, so i dont use them.

I'm sorry, but I don't understand the logic in that. Why would using C4D's be more wrong that using renders?

More importantly, what's wrong with using other software?

Well, I find that it is not your work. I mean, the backgrounds of images usually make the image look really nice. So, I find using C4D's cheating, because it is not your work, so it is not 100% paint.net. A lot of people use them, but I know a guy that can make awesome stuff in Paint.net and uses no C4D's whatsoever.

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Glitchy? anyway, if using c4ds are cheating, why isn't using renders and plug ins cheating also?

Plugins are made for Paint.net, so they are part of paint.net once added in.

Renders are not part of the background. Since the backgrounds are a major part of the image, I do not consider the people and renders on the image cheating, since they are needed. True, the images on the image are not 100% Paint.net, but having full background C4D's is cheating, and something I do not recommend.

And yes, I was referring to Glitchy. All his images are 100% Paint.net. No one can argue with that. He even told me himself.

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Well, I find that it is not your work. I mean, the backgrounds of images usually make the image look really nice. So, I find using C4D's cheating, because it is not your work, so it is not 100% paint.net. A lot of people use them, but I know a guy that can make awesome stuff in Paint.net and uses no C4D's whatsoever.

That's not my point, I'm asking you what's wrong with making the C4Ds yourself and using them? You say it's not 100% PDN like that means it doesn't count as art anymore...

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Well, I find that it is not your work. I mean, the backgrounds of images usually make the image look really nice. So, I find using C4D's cheating, because it is not your work, so it is not 100% paint.net. A lot of people use them, but I know a guy that can make awesome stuff in Paint.net and uses no C4D's whatsoever.

That's not my point, I'm asking you what's wrong with making the C4Ds yourself and using them? You say it's not 100% PDN like that means it doesn't count as art anymore...

Can you please tell me where I said it was not art?

I admit it is art, but it is not 100% Paint.net, so by using a C4D background, you lost the right to say it was 100% Paint.net because if you said it was, you would be lying. What is wrong with them? Well, using C4D backgrounds just takes the Paint.net out of the image. Basically, it turns into the C4D and the C4D owns the image, it is basically not your image if you use a C4D.

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You guys are still discussing the C4D thing?

Honeslty, I don't think using a C4D is "cheating." You say the C4D is not made by you so it is cheating. I also guess using a render is cheating since you didn't make it. I also guess that using any character in your sig is cheating since you didn't create the character either. Even the font you use on your sig is cheating unless you made it.

Lets just end this debate. :|

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