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Debate: Mandetory Vaccination


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  1. 1. Issue Vote

    • Yes - I support vaccination and it should be forced upon everyone
      0
    • Yes - I support forced vaccination but there should be medical exemptions
      6
    • Yes - I support forced vaccination but there should be medical and religious exemptions
      5
    • Yes - I support forced vaccination but there should be medical, religious and philosophical exemptions
      2
    • I support vaccination but not mandetory law.
      9
    • I have neutral views on vaccination and there should be no law.
      1
    • Vaccine Is Murder - but people should be able to choose
      0
    • Vaccine Is Murder - ban it
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    • Other
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How do you call a father who kills his son? A murderer.

So why should you call a believer the father who let his son die cause he refuses him to receive a blood transfusion? A person should be responsible for his own life not for the life of others (unless he is an executor) what about his son's point of view? cause it is his life we are talking of.

Again, how can you respect someone who believes in eternal damnation and allows his son to do something that he believes will take him there? I am of the Christian faith, and I believe that anyone who rejects God will pass into an eternity without Him - that is, eternal torment, or hell. So how could I allow anyone I claim to love to reject Him? How could I call it love if I allow him to flippantly put off the idea of God without trying all I could to save his eternal soul?

The same motivation applies to someone that believes vaccination leads to eternal damnation. It doesn't matter if you or I don't believe it; the fact is that some do. And as soon as we start abridging that right, we set a very dangerous precedent.

 

The Doctor: There was a goblin, or a trickster, or a warrior... A nameless, terrible thing, soaked in the blood of a billion galaxies. The most feared being in all the cosmos. And nothing could stop it, or hold it, or reason with it. One day it would just drop out of the sky and tear down your world.
Amy: But how did it end up in there?
The Doctor: You know fairy tales. A good wizard tricked it.
River Song: I hate good wizards in fairy tales; they always turn out to be him.

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I wouldn't, because I don't think it would be effective. But some might.

 

The Doctor: There was a goblin, or a trickster, or a warrior... A nameless, terrible thing, soaked in the blood of a billion galaxies. The most feared being in all the cosmos. And nothing could stop it, or hold it, or reason with it. One day it would just drop out of the sky and tear down your world.
Amy: But how did it end up in there?
The Doctor: You know fairy tales. A good wizard tricked it.
River Song: I hate good wizards in fairy tales; they always turn out to be him.

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If laying down in front of my muslim wife's car would be successful in keeping her from hell, then yes. In fact, if I felt that giving my life would save anyone I love from hell, then I would undoubtedly do it.

 

The Doctor: There was a goblin, or a trickster, or a warrior... A nameless, terrible thing, soaked in the blood of a billion galaxies. The most feared being in all the cosmos. And nothing could stop it, or hold it, or reason with it. One day it would just drop out of the sky and tear down your world.
Amy: But how did it end up in there?
The Doctor: You know fairy tales. A good wizard tricked it.
River Song: I hate good wizards in fairy tales; they always turn out to be him.

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If laying down in front of my muslim wife's car.

But both of you would either go to heavan or hell - would you leave that decision to her or take the decision. We are forgetting technicalities so don't say things about the particular faiths.

I didn't mean "would you risk getting run over to save someone you love" - "I meant would you get in the way of their faith?".

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But both of you would either go to heavan or hell

maybe they'll both go to hell - each of them goes to hell because of the other's religion

that is, if you take Exodus 20:3 seriously (breaking this rule reserves a place in hell for you right?) and assuming that there is something similar in the Koran (is there?)

if that's true, then everyone goes to hell, how nice :) I wonder if it's all the same hell or would we be sorted on religion?

would not-believing in Hell spare you from being sent to it? Where do you end up if you don't believe in Heaven either? Still in either one or does your soul (assuming souls exist..) just disappear? Something else?

drifting a bit off-topic sorry, all is lost for me anyway, atheists don't go to heaven - even DA can't save me now

Extremism is a term used to describe the actions or ideologies of individuals or groups outside the perceived political center of a society; or otherwise claimed to violate common standards of ethics and reciprocity.

letting your children die for your religion violates my notion of ethics, clearly it doesn't for them otherwise they wouldn't do it.. so what's the standard here?

I would write plugins, if I knew what kind of plugins were needed.. :(

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I do not share your opinion but I would give my life to give you the right to express it.

Your freedom ends where it starts to affect others' freedom.

2 simple statements to say that everybody has the right to express his creed/opinion, but when his creed tells him to exterminate everyone that does not have his same faith or to suppress over 6,000,000 jewish we'll try any means to stop him, (and if human life has a value in itself that applies either to every single life - the boy who might die cause he's denied a blood transfusion or a vaccination)

Harold: we are going to share same atheists' hell/heaven, if any, I suppose but I think we'll be in good company (many philosophers otuthere we'll have a lot of nice conversations :lol: )

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