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The church can be implemented into government, right?

No, since when does Huckabee support that?

I honestly don't think Huckabee would support g** Marriage.

No, he wouldn't.

...I felt her husband did a great job as president...

He did a number on those interns too, no wonder he's so eager to get back.

Unfortunately I think our economy is coming to a collapse.

Really, privy to inside information are we? The economy runs in cycles, a time of growth and expansion followed by a short slowdown. It happens fairly regularly and is nearly predictable. Just because the liberal media drums this "recession" up doesn't mean it's half as bad as they say.

The ability for a person to abort an unbirthed child should be left to them.

Hmmm, well then I should just run out, stab a few people, and call it my moral values then.

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I can't bring myself to vote for Obama because of his position on District of Columbia v. Heller. The fact that he's also against National Missile Defense is a big Minus, as is his slightly anti-nuclear stance (I will admit he is the less anti-nuclear than Billery).

Yes I have three positions that are vital to me.

  • [*:zxyrewgv]National Missile Defense (any country that doesn't have a total ABM system by 2020 will not be a major player on the world stage (If you don't get this I can try to explain it to you).[*:zxyrewgv]Gun owners rights (Go Second Amendment!)[*:zxyrewgv]Nuclear Power - the only source of electricity that will last well into the 2100s

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Hmmm, well then I should just run out, stab a few people, and call it my moral values then.

that's what will happen if you get rid of abortion. People will go to side clinics and possibly have a fate worse than death. Or the woman who should not keep the baby because they will die will die. You, by voting against Roe v. Wade, will be running out and stabbing people. Try your views out on a few women. I think you'll have an interesting response, especially those who were abused in a grotesque manner.

And so what if Clinton fooled around? Did that say to everyone to do the same? And did that change all the positive things he did while president? I would have rather have heard Dubya fooled around than have sent 100,000+ to be killed in a war, and the list goes on. What if no one ever heard about his affairs? Would he be thought differently? I guess that falls into the category of "If a tree falls and no one hears it fall, does it make a sound?"

These views could be because I have seen some foolish stuff happen because of a former moral Mormon Governor messed up my state, bankrupted one of the towns here because he was trying to make it more efficient. I liked Reagan, he was for education, and did a great job during his two terms in office. Would vote Republican again if there was another like him. :wink:

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Unfortunately I think our economy is coming to a collapse.

Really, privy to inside information are we? The economy runs in cycles, a time of growth and expansion followed by a short slowdown. It happens fairly regularly and is nearly predictable. Just because the liberal media drums this "recession" up doesn't mean it's half as bad as they say.

The ability for a person to abort an unbirthed child should be left to them.

Hmmm, well then I should just run out, stab a few people, and call it my moral values then.

A: No, I don't listen to the media. I simply believe with more and more selection coming into the market we are destroying the consumer. For instance, just recently I had been dead set on getting an iPhone until I heard of the n800 on this forum. Needless to say I have had a change of mind and I consider myself somewhat tech savvy compared to the rest of the population. Simply put: Consumer needs it to be easy, and we are no longer doing that thus resulting in a slow decay of our economy.

B: Well, morally you would have to chose to kill somebody. There is just one thing: the person you murdered is an actually person who has actually been birthed. I mean, if you are a poor woman unable to sustain a child and it is known the child is defected what is your other option? Adoption? I mean honestly who is going to adopt a defective human being? Nobody to be honest. Thus, this 'person' will live his/her life out without any true form of life in which your dollar has supported this child all of his life because he has no family. Your moral understanding of the situation says this is better than abortion but in all brutal reality it simply isn't. Now don't go off saying I believe in ethnic cleansing or anything of the sort but if the woman had decided to have an abortion, that is one less tax dollar spent on a useless cause. Kill it :D

C: Combination of the church and government is ridiculous. I am not a Christian and never will be so keep them separated. I like my freedoms in this country and my ability to live my day to day life by my choice. Let us keep it that way.

D: Hillary Clinton is too weak to be a president. As my sister says "Anybody who lets their husband sleep on the couch after you caught him cheating is a very instable woman". Vote Barack

E: National Health System: oh yeah that works out real well in Canada and the UK NOT! In Canada surgery is a very difficult process to go through while in the UK certain areas of the country get better meds than other parts of the country.

So, all in all I support McCain and Obama.

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Anyway, Clinton is JW most wanted 2007 and also supports mandatory vaccination and also has a corrupt husband. Probably not going to get the liberty vote.

What's wrong with mandatory vaccinations. Guess what, if you don't get vaccinations then you a public health risk, and the rest of us should get to set you aside where you can't spread disease among the rest of us. If you want to live like the Amish (that is in separate communities with limited face-to-face interaction with the outside world) then fine by me, but I sure as frack don't want your kids going to school with my kids. The Minute that your kid killed by something as simple as mumps because you didn't give a kid the MMR shot, then I'll be yelling for you to get a nice cell for the rest of your life - that's what you should get for Manslaughter.

Here is a link to a story about a current outbreak in the US due to stupid parents.

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Well, morally you would have to chose to kill somebody. There is just one thing: the person you murdered is an actually person who has actually been birthed. I mean, if you are a poor woman unable to sustain a child and it is known the child is defected what is your other option? Adoption? I mean honestly who is going to adopt a defective human being? Nobody to be honest. Thus, this 'person' will live his/her life out without any true form of life in which your dollar has supported this child all of his life because he has no family. Your moral understanding of the situation says this is better than abortion but in all brutal reality it simply isn't. Now don't go off saying I believe in ethnic cleansing or anything of the sort but if the woman had decided to have an abortion, that is one less tax dollar spent on a useless cause. Kill it .

Now you're advocating euthanasia AND abortion. The thing is, that's a human life you're suggesting be killed. If you think of human lives in tax dollars and drains on society, something is wrong in this country.

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Now you're advocating euthanasia AND abortion. The thing is, that's a human life you're suggesting be killed. If you think of human lives in tax dollars and drains on society, something is wrong in this country.

It is true that something is definettly wrong with this country. I live in tax dollars, you live in tax dollars, we all live in tax dollars if you think about it.

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I have just noticed that the thread title has changed. :)

I think the subject matter strayed some from the original topic. I changed the title to reflect that. :wink:

Well, I apologize if I caused others to stray, but wanted to see why people were voting the way they do. People tend to talk about political junk when discussing the Candidates and the debates, etc.

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I have just noticed that the thread title has changed. :)

I think the subject matter strayed some from the original topic. I changed the title to reflect that. :wink:

Well, I apologize if I caused others to stray, but wanted to see why people were voting the way they do. People tend to talk about political junk when discussing the Candidates and the debates, etc.

No problem. I don't mind debate, and I expected this to happen eventually.

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Personally, though the US isn't my country, I'd like Obama to win, McCain seems like a decent and friendly guy but its just some of his ideas I don't agree with. As for Sarah Palin... well, I'm just not a big fan of her in general, she put up a pretty poor fight from what I saw when she and Biden had thier debate.

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I can't speak for Sozo, but I agree with him in being an Obama opposer. And it's for his stances on...well, almost every issue. :-)

His economic stances promote socialism at best, communism at worst; his foreign policy experience is nil and his stances reflect that with a naievete like nothing I've ever seen before; and he has a health care policy that would require magical money to spring up from the ground or result in millions of deaths, as a result of physicians leaving the country in droves due to low wages.

He's a rock-star politician: little understanding, but great popularity. See, he's built his campaign on "Change," and I'd like voters to reconsider. Change for change's sake isn't always desirable; if you're eating a slice of plain bread and someone exchanges it with a slice of mold-covered bread, it's a change, but it's hardly a good thing.

NObama'08: Keep the Change.

 

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Amy: But how did it end up in there?
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I can't speak for Sozo, but I agree with him in being an Obama opposer. And it's for his stances on...well, almost every issue. :-)

His economic stances promote socialism at best, communism at worst; his foreign policy experience is nil and his stances reflect that with a naievete like nothing I've ever seen before; and he has a health care policy that would require magical money to spring up from the ground or result in millions of deaths, as a result of physicians leaving the country in droves due to low wages.

He's a rock-star politician: little understanding, but great popularity. See, he's built his campaign on "Change," and I'd like voters to reconsider. Change for change's sake isn't always desirable; if you're eating a slice of plain bread and someone exchanges it with a slice of mold-covered bread, it's a change, but it's hardly a good thing.

NObama'08: Keep the Change.

I can understand you points certainly, its so much better than another McCain voter who had no reason other than he was convinced Obama was a muslim, which he actually isn't, which I just can't respect. But your reasons I definately can see, sure.

Though I, as a citizen of another country, would feel Obama would be preferable, whilst he hasn't any foreign experiance his stances are more relaxing to me, McCain's seems a bit too... aggressive. The entire Geogia crisis I think Obama said to leave which is wise because you really do not want to get all angry with Russia, one of the most powerful countries in the world who currently seem a bit... violent. McCain called that unpatriotic but is it unpatriotic to protect your country from unnecessary violence?

One thing I definately like though is that the two candidates themselves seem friendly with one another, like when McCain protected Obama when one of his supporters called Obama an arab, which I really respect.

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I can't speak for Sozo, but I agree with him in being an Obama opposer. And it's for his stances on...well, almost every issue.

Yep, indeed. I don't dislike him as a person, but his views and stances are way too liberal for me.

NObama'08: Keep the Change.

That's awesome. :)

The entire Georgia crisis I think Obama said to leave which is wise because you really do not want to get all angry with Russia, one of the most powerful countries in the world who currently seem a bit... violent. McCain called that unpatriotic but is it unpatriotic to protect your country from unnecessary violence?

But is it right to let a big country push around little countries? It's just like bullies on the playground. I'm not advocating war with Russia (that would suck :| ), but economic sanctions, for example, are a good way to put pressure on Russia to stop trying to assert their dominance in eastern Europe.

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