Fire Text transparent or white background?

[sagedavis]

I am stumped.

I am doing a logo for a local charity event to be put on t-shirts. The shirts are going to be white. Anyway, I guess that's not really relivant, but, I am trying to make realistic fire but on a transparent or even white background rather than black.

All the tutorials on fire require backgrounds of black, but, if you pull the background out of these, the image no longer seems "natural".

Does anyone have a way to make a decent, fire on either a transparent background or a white one?

Transparent might be best in this case, but, I'll settle for white.

Thanks a bunch.

Sage

[barkbark00]

Build your fire with a black BG and the use Curves+ to make the black transparent...

Quick example using TJ's Fire tutorial:

[sagedavis]

I might be slow?

I Tried this just with black and blue clouds, just to do a quick test of this method.

I go to curves+ and under alpha, I didn't understand all of that... just one curve to manipulate, then went to advanced insted.

there I have the option of In and out.

These provide dropdowns with Key/black being one of the options.

When I do the "in" as key black, it actually makes all the white stuff transparent.

If I do the "out" as key black, it turns the whole thing black

if I do both as key black, we get no change at all.?

What am I doing wrong with it?

Thanks for the help by the way

Sage

EDIT:::

never mind, I figured it out. I used Red in the "in" instead of doing something with the black, and this pulled trick off.

Here is the prototype of the image I am working on. It's for a tennis team called "Heart Of Texas 6" They go by HOT 6.

[The_Lionhearted]

Very nice Sage!

[sagedavis]

Thanks, I'll post the finished product in the pictorium, once we figure out what they really want to do with the H and the T... looks a little bland... May try to make the effect so that the ball is either coming out of the fire, or being thrown at it, sort making some sort of a displacement look... The problem is, it has to look good on a t-shirt, but, also on something small like a business card.

The second problem is my run on sentences,,,, LOL