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question re updating

I just changed over from 3.08 to 3.10 but notice that now I've two ink sketch and a portrait and a soften portrait is this correct or should I have deleted some effects before updating?

not sure which ones to delete now.

chow OMA

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There should only be one .dll file in your effects folder for each of the duplicate effects. The other effects (I'm guessing) are coded into paint.net's source. Hope that helps :)

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thanks I'll do that immediatelly but just wondering was not the update supposed to remove that ? I'm curious now how many other duplicates I've on my computor.

chow and thanks once again

OMA

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The update doesn't remove it, it just replaces it. Your downloaded copies of the plugins are still there, they've just been supplanted by other copies within the PdN code itself. The only duplicates you have are the ones you can see two of in your "effects" folder (Portrait and Ink Sketch, probably).

Oma! I'm so glad to see you back! :-) We missed you. (Well, I did. I'm sure going to feel dumb if you've been here the whole time...)

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I get a fatal error msg when updating

You've already asked in Bugs & Troubleshooting, please wait for answer there.

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Comi...

The Popular Feature Requests[/url]":34889]Layer "folders", or the ability to organize layers in a hierarchy -- I want this too, and it depends on some major plumbing work being done. This would be a Paint.NET v4.0 level of feature. No ETA.

;) Patience is a virtue.

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PNGOUT! PNGOUT! PNGOUT!

It's shaved off between 2-10 KB on every picture compared to PNGCrush, and yes it may be a command line application, but what I've found easier is to have the .exe in my signatures folder and simply drag and drop the desired file onto the .exe. PNGGauntet has compressed them the same as PNGOUT (obviously) but I've found the UI has slowed down the process on some of the larger .png's I've wanted to compress.

EDIT: changed 5 KB > 2 KB, I don't know why I hit the 5 key.

I actually prefer optipng now, it does a slightly better job. Plus its license is more open, maybe I can integrate it somehow ... * gets ideas *

I would like to see a "Compress PNG with OptiPNG" checkbox in the future.

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I would like to see a "Compress PNG with OptiPNG" checkbox in the future.

Basic options:
   -h, -help           show this help
   -v                  verbose mode / show copyright, version and build info
   -o           optimization level (0-7)                default 2
   -i            interlace type (0-1)                    default 
   -k, -keep           keep a backup of the modified files
   -q, -quiet          quiet mode
Advanced options:
   -zc         zlib compression levels (1-9)           default 9
   -zm         zlib memory levels (1-9)                default 8
   -zs     zlib compression strategies (0-3)       default 0-3
   -zw    zlib window size (32k,16k,8k,4k,2k,1k,512)
   -f         PNG delta filters (0-5)                 default 0,5
   -nb                 no bit depth reduction
   -nc                 no color type reduction
   -np                 no palette reduction
   -nz                 no IDAT recompression (also disable reductions)
   -fix                enable error recovery
   -force              write a new output, even if it is larger than the input
   -full               produce a full report on IDAT (might reduce speed)
   -preserve           preserve file attributes if possible
   -simulate           run in simulation mode, do not create output files
   -out          write output file to 
   -dir     write output file(s) to 
   -log          log messages to 
   --                  stop option switch parsing

...

You said, checkbox :D

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Yeah, but what the basic user doesn't know won't hurt them :D

I was thinking about letting it compress at a lower, faster setting like -o3 or even -o2.

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I know Rick doesn't like the "Expert Mode" buttons and the like, but tweaking a little bit the settings will be nice...

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^That's where another one of my ideas comes in. I think there should be two versions of Paint.NET 4.0 when it comes out-- Basic Edition and Professional Edition (maybe even a Standard in between). I would explain how the versions would be like, but I don't think it would be worth all that time.

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Eh...might be too much confusion. :? One of Paint.NET's main selling points is it's simplicity. I'd rather see complexity built in as well, but retaining the same useable UI-type-ness.

One of these days I'll learn how to make coherent sentences expressing what I mean. :P

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I'm sure it would be similar to the Set Defaults option now - the program would retain the most common default setting so anyone upgrading would still feel at home with the interface.

Those who want to change things will be able to do so, and those who don't know that things can be changed probably wouldn't want them changed anyway. In the event that the novice users do want to customize something, the experienced users will be able to point them in the right direction and help them through it.

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I see what you're saying. We can just do what a ton of other programs do. Add an "Advance" button on every toolbar and window. :D

:shock: :cry:

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I see what you're saying. We can just do what a ton of other programs do. Add an "Advance" button on every toolbar and window. :D

:shock: :cry:

Yeah, Paint.NET isn't every other program.

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I see what you're saying. We can just do what a ton of other programs do. Add an "Advance" button on every toolbar and window. :D

:shock: :cry:

Yeah, Paint.NET isn't every other program.

Ok. Maybe instead of adding "Advance" buttons everywhere, maybe increase power and still maintaining the perfect UI?

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