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Nope we should not have to take away kids' freedoms to protect them.

My views are expressed as a survivor & other related experiences having worked in a jail. Our beliefs & experiences influences how we view the world.

Yeah, Welshy, age 20 think he knows sumthi'. He'll get a deserved education with her majesty's big house.

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Nope we should not have to take away kids' freedoms to protect them.

"Those willing to give up liberty for security deserve neither and will lose both."

This half makes me want to put up cameras on the streets for my little sisters.

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Well, on a slightly different topic, someone killed a deer on the walking trails (the ones my little sisters like to play on) and took everything - except for the dismembered legs. Slightly concerned for anyone who walks the trails at night (although, everyone is looking for who did it - assuming it was a crossbow or something else that would be silent (If anything else, a compound bow) and accurate.

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Firearms can be surprisingly quiet in wooded areas. The other thought I had (for I too strike this on running trails) is that the animal may have been killed elsewhere and the remains dumped where they were found.

It's a sad world sometimes :(

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As far as I am aware, Safari gets what it's given; it's up to the website to decide what that is. The website dictates whether the iPad gets sent the mobile website or not. That said, it would be nice if there were an option to identify as a desktop browser - but then, Chrome for iPad does that, so there's no problem.

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Well, some kid today spat his gum onto my backpack. I called him a retard for it - it's reasonable to be mildly angry when someone does that, right? - and he called me an <highlight to see> (insert a word that starts with a and rhymes with the fish "bass" here). The teacher overheard and told him to apologize, and I said I didn't need him to lie to me. But anyways, I really want to get this kid out of my life. He's an overweight narcissist that rarely does as told (included the overweight bit because it's annoying for someone who's 260 (he's more heavyset than anyone I know, and - by my dad, who is 180 - he seems to be around that weight) to think he's stronger than you or has any sort of reason to be picking on anyone) and none of the teachers do anything about it. Heck, it's a Christian school and I got away with calling him a retard, and he got away with spitting his gum at me and calling me an (see what I said above). Anyways, it's time for my workout. I'll probably feel better afterwards.

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Last night I had to go out into the waiting room at the hospital to inform two parents that sadly their daughter had not survived the car crash she was involved in, not the best news to have to break :( and all some people can do is complain about something as trivual as "gum"

Life get's put into perspective when a life is taken.

 

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Last night I had to go out into the waiting room at the hospital to inform two parents that sadly their daughter had not survived the car crash she was involved in, not the best news to have to break :( and all some people can do is complain about something as trivual as "gum"

Life get's put into perspective when a life is taken.

That sounds extremely unpleasant. I am sorry you were the one to break the news to them. Death certainly puts life into perspective. That being said, it wasn't right of you to try and trivialize AGJM's bullying incident. Just because you had to go through something very difficult doesn't mean AGJM isn't allowed to vent about his own personal frustrations.

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Last night I had to go out into the waiting room at the hospital to inform two parents that sadly their daughter had not survived the car crash she was involved in, not the best news to have to break :( and all some people can do is complain about something as trivual as "gum"

Life get's put into perspective when a life is taken.

Sometimes, life is best put out of perspective - otherwise, you'd find yourself wishing something was more serious so that you could complain about it.

Of course, I'm sorry for that family. I'm just upset that some obese kid spat his gum onto my backpack and called me a name that's blocked on this forum. For no reason, at least the gum part - and I bet he was proud of himself for it. He's a drama queen - and he always says he wants to get out of the drama. He's the source of a lot of my headaches, and - after repeatedly asking him kindly to act like school was school (worded differently, of course) - the only response I've ever received is along the lines of "Uh, how about - NO." or "You aren't the boss of me," followed by some sort of insult. I hate it when he experiences joy, and I find myself wanting to cause him pain. He, in my mind, deserves it. I've hated him since the first time I saw him - when he said he thought he could beat me up - and, in my mind, rightfully so. I was better about these things when I was younger (of course, one may think), but I've had enough of fools ruining my days. They don't deserve to, and they definitely don't deserve the laughter they share with whoever saw it afterwards. So, perhaps one day my mind will fit on straight again, but until then - let's hope I'm not alone with any of "them" with sharp objects or projectiles. Perhaps I wouldn't win in that scenario, but I'd be happy to die trying - as long as it ended with guilt or a frown on their face. I hate foolish kids, sometimes myself too. Perhaps I should be doing my homework right now, also, but I've only half completed my workout.

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That sounds extremely unpleasant. I am sorry you were the one to break the news to them. Death certainly puts life into perspective. That being said, it wasn't right of you to try and trivialize AGJM's bullying incident. Just because you had to go through something very difficult doesn't mean AGJM isn't allowed to vent about his own personal frustrations.

I don't see any words where I was trivualising his "bullying" I was merely putting things into perspective, death is more serious than gum in my opinion. I would hardly call gum being spat at by someone as the type of bullying and harrasment I get each time I go to work!

Plus seeing how this thread is an "enter at own risk" topic, then i'm sure I am allowed to post my own opinions! Or am I not allowed an opinion?

Trust me, as a nurse I could create a thread based on some of the things I have experienced, on many occations I have been attacked, cut, bruised, punched, threatened (some of them with death) all of it bullying, I am at the front line of bullying every night 7 days a week, but Hey, that's what I get paid for I guess!

 

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My rant: I don't feel at home at home- Quite the opposite in fact. I don't have my own room; I am disturbed constantly. Things are done differently than how I would have them done (who in their right mind keeps the nail clipper in the kitchen?!); the fridge is filled with food I don't eat, shelves filled with items no one uses. Bed that doesn't feel mine. Furniture that doesn't feel mine centred around TV's switched on all the time when I'd prefer not to have any. I'd like to move out, but no work experience means no future work means no income. So I'm stuck here.

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My rant: I don't feel at home at home- Quite the opposite in fact. I don't have my own room; I am disturbed constantly. Things are done differently than how I would have them done (who in their right mind keeps the nail clipper in the kitchen?!); the fridge is filled with food I don't eat, shelves filled with items no one uses. Bed that doesn't feel mine. Furniture that doesn't feel mine centred around TV's switched on all the time when I'd prefer not to have any. I'd like to move out, but no work experience means no future work means no income. So I'm stuck here.

Sort of like the situation I was in last year. I have no advice, though - there isn't really any sort of way to get out of that situation.

Just get some nice sound-blocking headphones or something. Relax, drink cold water, keep out of stressful situations. I guess I do have some advice.

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My rant: I don't feel at home at home- Quite the opposite in fact. I don't have my own room; I am disturbed constantly. Things are done differently than how I would have them done (who in their right mind keeps the nail clipper in the kitchen?!); the fridge is filled with food I don't eat, shelves filled with items no one uses. Bed that doesn't feel mine. Furniture that doesn't feel mine centred around TV's switched on all the time when I'd prefer not to have any. I'd like to move out, but no work experience means no future work means no income. So I'm stuck here.

I do feel for you and the situation you are in, privacy and some peace n quiet is all we need sometimes, the need to switch off is important, the need to tune people out and have some time for ourselves is vital. I do hope you turn a corner and find the privacy that you deserve :) Remember when life throws you a lemon, make lemondade. You will make it in the end. I agree also with nail clippers in the kitchen, my husband has a mania for leaving odd objects in the wrong places :|

 

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I don't see any words where I was trivualising his "bullying" I was merely putting things into perspective, death is more serious than gum in my opinion. I would hardly call gum being spat at someone as the type of bullying and harrasment I get each time I go to work!

Plus seeing how this thread is an "enter at own risk" topic, then i'm sure I am allowed to post my own opinions! Or am I not allowed an opinion?

Trust me, as a nurse I could create a thread based on some of the things I have experienced, on many occations I have been attacked, cut, bruised, punched, threatened (some of them with death) all of it bullying, I am at the front line of bullying every night 7 days a week, but Hey, that's what I get paid for I guess!

A "My life is worse than yours" contest?

1: You get paid. I get a grade based on how well I've ignored it and gotten through my classes.

2: You job isn't forced on you - you could easily have chosen any other career. You aren't forced to work in the medical field.

3: You could sue or press charges on whoever did those things to you, you don't have to live with it. I do - I can't exactly sue for being called a foul word or being spat upon, but you can sue or press charges for any of those things.

4: Am I not allowed the opinion that being spat at and being insulted for being angry about it is a viable thing to vent about?

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I do feel for you and the situation you are in, privacy and some peace n quiet is all we need sometimes, the need to switch off is important, the need to tune people out and have some time for ourselves is vital. I do hope you turn a corner and find the privacy that you deserve :) Remember when life throws you a lemon, make lemondade. You will make it in the end. I agree also with nail clippers in the kitchen, my husband has a mania for leaving odd objects in the wrong places :|

Also, the "Lemons? Make lemonade," saying is about as helpful as yelling at someone who has depression, saying "MAN UP AND DEAL WITH IT!"

In my very entitled opinion, at least.

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A "My life is worse than yours" contest?

What!

I don't get paid to be abused, I certainly don't get paid enough to deal with junkies and alcoholics, but I have to do it because I made a medical oath to help everyone!

When I became a nurse a long time back, things were a lot different to how they are now. I love saving lives. I love to reunite a family.

I studdied medicine and nursing at university, what esle would I do with a nursing degree, but be a nurse, Flip burgers @ Mc Donnalds? - Hardly!

Do you really think I could sue someone who has no money ?

Yes you are allowed an opinion, but then again so am I !

Now if you will excuse me, it is time for work and time for more abuse.

Also, the "Lemons? Make lemonade," saying is about as helpful as yelling at someone who has depression, saying "MAN UP AND DEAL WITH IT!"

In my very entitled opinion, at least.

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What!

I don't get paid to be abused, I certainly don't get paid enough to deal with junkies and alcoholics, but I have to do it because I made a medical oath to help everyone!

When I became a nurse a long time back, things were a lot different to how they are now. I love saving lives. I love to reunite a family.

I studdied medicine and nursing at university, what esle would I do with a nursing degree, but be a nurse, Flip burgers @ Mc Donnalds? - Hardly!

Do you really think I could sue someone who has no money ?

Yes you are allowed an opinion, but then again so am I !

Now if you will excuse me, it is time for work and time for more abuse.

Wow, you really have a problem with me don't you young man?

And rightfully so.

Edit: You get paid for being in the environment where you are abused - and you volunteered to take that oath.

I didn't volunteer to be put into an environment where I'm constantly being judged, insulted, and hurt - and I have to pay, at this private school, to be there.

I also see you didn't study what type of responses and abuse a nurse receives.

You could get them put in prison for a given amount of time, or at least get them to stop - what you said they're doing is slightly illegal.

You are allowed an opinion, but aggressive, opinion-based statements are frowned upon. No matter how hypocritical it is to say that - I'm fine with being aggressive as a defender.

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Will both of you please just stop?

AGJM - from what I often read of your posts, you're aspiring to be a mature, well-balanced teenager. Well, regardless of who started this little tiff, the mature thing to do would be to end it. You're not helping yourself, or anyone else, by pursuing this argument. Yes, we all have our problems in life, but that doesn't mean you get to disrespect those of others because of your own.

nitenurse - I empathise with you, I really do, but arguing with a 14-year-old online isn't helping you, either. You deal with enough bad things at work in the day, evidently, so don't force yourself to endure more at home. Have faith in your own opinion, and resist the temptation to defend it - step away from the computer and appreciate the opportunity for relaxation you have.

I'm sorry if I'm being a little harsh, but don't bother trying to drag me into this argument, because you can't. I'm going to go to bed now, and when I wake up, I want to see both of you content with the other, having forgiven them for any slights, borne out of anger. You both have problems - that's what this thread is for - but you are meant to be united by them, not divided. Anger is not the way to deal with them.

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@ NN ... I applaud every single one of who does that job for a pittance. You could always sue for their last can of special brew :P

@ AGJM ... maybe you should sue the school if reported bullying continues as they're not looking out for your welfare (not that I'm a fan of compensation culture), and you can also press charges if you're assaulted in school.

Take a deep breath everyone ...

@ NN ... I applaud every single one of who does that job for a pittance. You could always sue for their last can of special brew :P

@ AGJM ... maybe you should sue the school if reported bullying continues as they're not looking out for your welfare (not that I'm a fan of compensation culture), and you can also press charges if you're assaulted in school.

Take a deep breath everyone ...

As an example, what she said is like saying minor depression can't be complained about because some people have major depression - I'm saying that both, however, need and deserve treatment. Hers is also a bit of a "My life is worse than yours, but mine is worse because I wan't to help people!"

Perhaps she could help me by admitting I have a right to complain about being called a name for responding to being spat at - even though someone else was crushed and has a right to complain about losing a loved one. A large problem might need to be tended to before a small one - but the small one must also be dealt with. Does that make sense?

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Will both of you please just stop?

AGJM - from what I often read of your posts, you're aspiring to be a mature, well-balanced teenager. Well, regardless of who started this little tiff, the mature thing to do would be to end it. You're not helping yourself, or anyone else, by pursuing this argument. Yes, we all have our problems in life, but that doesn't mean you get to disrespect those of others because of your own.

Anger is not the way to deal with them.

More of realizing I'm not and doing nothing about it. Ending it is a bit above me - and she disrespected me, not the other way around - I merely responded in the way I saw fit. Anger is the most satisfying way to deal with something - closure is an illusion, you can never truly lay something to rest until you've forgotten about it (that isn't true closure, closure is being satisfied that you are done with it - not forgetting it exists)

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