ncfan51 Posted June 9, 2007 Share Posted June 9, 2007 Yes I know this is a bit dated, but this article tells why Opera is better than Firefox. Some don't apply anymore, but most do. But still, why does everybody ignore these: Let's put it like this: Users that have used Opera for more than FF like it better because they find the FF interface confusing, after being so attatched to the style of Opera, and vice-versa Arguement closed. Now lets bash IE Quote +_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+ I am a disco dancer. +_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRavioli Posted June 10, 2007 Share Posted June 10, 2007 IMO Opera IS better than FF for the following reasons: 1. for those of u who like o conserve hard drive space Opera is only about 9mb, smaller than FF 2. Opera has email, IRC chat, and a bittorrent client (although substandard), which FF lacks. 3.Opera has magic wand which autofills all internet registration forms....sadly if u get spyware this is a gold mine for ur info 4. Opera has widgets in place of FF's Extensions, which have more of an entertainment mindset than FF's all-around +400 extensions. 5. Opera has voice capabilities, if u selected the address bar spoke 'myspace', it would take u to myspace.com and it speaks text when ur too lazy to do it ur self 6. Opera is faster 7. opera can remember the last sites u were on b4 u closed ur browser 8. Search engines. with opera u can add searches to ur browser and put them handy in the top right so u wont have to go to wikipedi/google/yahoo to search 9. thumbnails when ur cursor hovers over a tab 10. mouse gestures are standard 11. server name completion no having to hit ctrl + enter or typing in www/com just type in the meat of the website name and it takes u ther 12. opera retains about the same disk usage no matter how many tabs u have (0-6) 13.takes 7 seconds less time to start up than FF 14. Opera was the only web browser to have succeeded in the acid2 web browser test BTW has any tried FF 3 Alpha? source:http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1697,1990865,00.asp Quote The coolest Indian on Paint.NET Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yata Posted June 10, 2007 Share Posted June 10, 2007 Your sig sort of gave me a head ach... Quote "Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former" [ dA Paint.NET Chat :: Yata on dA ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRavioli Posted June 10, 2007 Share Posted June 10, 2007 yeah about that i need to slow down the frame rate im getting a gif animator now Quote The coolest Indian on Paint.NET Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yata Posted June 10, 2007 Share Posted June 10, 2007 Use unFREEz.... Quote "Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former" [ dA Paint.NET Chat :: Yata on dA ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRavioli Posted June 10, 2007 Share Posted June 10, 2007 not working....same speed no matter what the rate Quote The coolest Indian on Paint.NET Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephan Posted June 10, 2007 Share Posted June 10, 2007 Wow... Built in voice commands... Now i don't even have to move my lazy eyes if i want to read something... When can i type with it? It'd be great for school Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moc426 Posted June 10, 2007 Share Posted June 10, 2007 All this is available in firefox, maybe not the useless stuff though. IMO Opera IS better than FF for the following reasons:1. for those of u who like o conserve hard drive space Opera is only about 9mb, smaller than FF 2. Opera has email, IRC chat, and a bittorrent client (although substandard), which FF lacks. 3.Opera has magic wand which autofills all internet registration forms....sadly if u get spyware this is a gold mine for ur info 4. Opera has widgets in place of FF's Extensions, which have more of an entertainment mindset than FF's all-around +400 extensions. 5. Opera has voice capabilities, if u selected the address bar spoke 'myspace', it would take u to myspace.com and it speaks text when ur too lazy to do it ur self 6. Opera is faster 7. opera can remember the last sites u were on b4 u closed ur browser 8. Search engines. with opera u can add searches to ur browser and put them handy in the top right so u wont have to go to wikipedi/google/yahoo to search 9. thumbnails when ur cursor hovers over a tab 10. mouse gestures are standard 11. server name completion no having to hit ctrl + enter or typing in www/com just type in the meat of the website name and it takes u ther 12. opera retains about the same disk usage no matter how many tabs u have (0-6) 13.takes 7 seconds less time to start up than FF 14. Opera was the only web browser to have succeeded in the acid2 web browser test BTW has any tried FF 3 Alpha? source:http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1697,1990865,00.asp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ncfan51 Posted June 10, 2007 Share Posted June 10, 2007 Here is my strongest point yet: Opera has passed Acid 2, and Firefox has not. And I don't want to here FF fanboys screeching "Well Firefox 3 alpha has!" Two things: A. It's alpha! B. By the time it gets released it might not be compatible. That happened to Safari and iCab (although finally after 2 years they are now compliant) Take that! If you want proof take your little FF's to the Acid 2 homepage! :mtdew: 500TH POST!:mtdew: Quote +_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+ I am a disco dancer. +_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRavioli Posted June 10, 2007 Share Posted June 10, 2007 Here is my strongest point yet:Opera has passed Acid 2, and Firefox has not. And I don't want to here FF fanboys screeching "Well Firefox 3 alpha has!" Two things: A. It's alpha! B. By the time it gets released it might not be compatible. That happened to Safari and iCab (although finally after 2 years they are now compliant) Take that! If you want proof take your little FF's to the Acid 2 homepage! speaking of FF 3 what have they added that wasnt in FF 2? Quote The coolest Indian on Paint.NET Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myrddin Posted June 10, 2007 Share Posted June 10, 2007 They're using a new rendering engine the Gecko 1.9, amongst other stuff. Take a gander at the Wiki. EDIT: For the fight against Opera: Some article[/url]":97b74]As an Opera fan, I feel compelled to point out that many of the most useful feature requests have been present in that browser for some time now, such as the ability to save text entered in forms so that the user can hit the back button to return to a form entry page without losing all the text. Quote How to Save Your Images under Different File Types My dA Gallery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ncfan51 Posted June 11, 2007 Share Posted June 11, 2007 Does any FF lover dare to fight back at my new arguement? Or are they too scared ? Quote +_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+ I am a disco dancer. +_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRavioli Posted June 11, 2007 Share Posted June 11, 2007 i think a lot of ppl used FF before they switched to opera. so really lots of opera users are all firefoxes inside Quote The coolest Indian on Paint.NET Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ncfan51 Posted June 11, 2007 Share Posted June 11, 2007 not me Quote +_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+ I am a disco dancer. +_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moc426 Posted June 11, 2007 Share Posted June 11, 2007 http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp case closed. Does any FF lover dare to fight back at my new arguement? Or are they too scared ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRavioli Posted June 11, 2007 Share Posted June 11, 2007 im sry but htat wesite explained absolutely nothing only javascript and broswer usage statistics Quote The coolest Indian on Paint.NET Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ncfan51 Posted June 11, 2007 Share Posted June 11, 2007 That has nothing to do with Acid 2. Also, because more people use it doesn't mean it's better. Mac OS X is 10x better than Microsoft Windows, yet 90% use the latter. So case, not closed! Quote +_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+ I am a disco dancer. +_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moc426 Posted June 11, 2007 Share Posted June 11, 2007 Mac OS usage is very small in comparison to windows OS, hence the IE advantage. Mac IE sucks. Don't care for acid 2 test, that tests a few things but not everything, opera fails in other simple things as in when it changed my page to white for no reason what so ever, all that occurred was an ajax call and some dhtml changes that did nothing to the page color but opera still decided to change it. That has nothing to do with Acid 2. Also, because more people use it doesn't mean it's better. Mac OS X is 10x better than Microsoft Windows, yet 90% use the latter. So case, not closed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moc426 Posted June 11, 2007 Share Posted June 11, 2007 im sry but htat wesite explained absolutely nothing only javascript and broswer usage statistics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yata Posted June 11, 2007 Share Posted June 11, 2007 If I were you, it would be most safe not to start a debate on that. As for your little test, that shows nothing but technical components, dose it show how the browser looks? The ease of use? Dose it show anything but some flaws that may be in it? Context is in the hands of the beholder. How you take it is how you take it. Quote "Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former" [ dA Paint.NET Chat :: Yata on dA ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ncfan51 Posted June 11, 2007 Share Posted June 11, 2007 ^^Yup, what he said^^ Quote +_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+ I am a disco dancer. +_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRavioli Posted June 11, 2007 Share Posted June 11, 2007 im sry but htat wesite explained absolutely nothing only javascript and broswer usage statistics to uhhh quote myself the amount of ppl that use a certain browser means nothing...it just means the public is more familiar with it and prefers to use it. For example, just because the ipod video has more sales than most portable video players doesn't mean its better. the Creative Zen Vision W has bigger screen, less price, and more features BUT ive never seen anybody use it Quote The coolest Indian on Paint.NET Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moc426 Posted June 11, 2007 Share Posted June 11, 2007 Sorry Opera missed the web browser boat a long time ago, esp. since they started off with Advertisements in their browser as well as it being shareware. The boat is now too far for opera to catch up to, unless it doesn't something amazing and takes a speed boat over, it doesn't have much chance of success. IPOD made the boat and left before anyone can get on. Btw check out the iphone for larger screen video playback. im sry but htat wesite explained absolutely nothing only javascript and broswer usage statistics to uhhh quote myself the amount of ppl that use a certain browser means nothing...it just means the public is more familiar with it and prefers to use it. For example, just because the ipod video has more sales than most portable video players doesn't mean its better. the Creative Zen Vision W has bigger screen, less price, and more features BUT ive never seen anybody use it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeek Posted June 11, 2007 Share Posted June 11, 2007 Can I ask how this page hasn't been referenced yet? Detailing how even IE is safer than Firefox (1.x) . I used to be a major FF fan, telling everyuone "OMFG SWTICH TO FF NOW." But then my computer started freezing up whenever I used it. Memory leaks kept the thing from running right. Though, I only have 256MB of RAM, but still, it was annoying. Thus, I switched to Opera. Been happy since, as I also actually get barely spyware and viruses now that I use it. FF and IE had been giving my computer all that stuff, while Opera hasn't. Sure, yes, I miss all those cool extensions/plugins Firefox has (like DownThemAll!, Gmail Checker and BugMeNot). Opera can replicate most of them through custom javascript input (even GreaseMonkey scripts, too) and Widgits. Though, it just isn't the same (That gmail widigt barely works, as it states I have 22 emails when I have none :? ). The only real con I find with Opera though is that it can't run pages like FreeWebs correctly (as in the page editors) because of how it saves the cache and whatnot. Thus, this is the only real reason I keep Firefox around (Can't really stand using IE either way, so...). lulz for first post being in a debate topic. Quote https://forums.getpaint.net/topic/2932-read-first-the-rules-yes-you-read-this-2013-12-21/#15 Hmmm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myrddin Posted June 11, 2007 Share Posted June 11, 2007 Can I ask how this page hasn't been referenced yet? Detailing how even IE is safer than Firefox (1.x) ... Could be for the fact that FF is now 2.0.0.4, many version after 1.x. Also with all your problems what was the version you were running and when (ish)? Quote How to Save Your Images under Different File Types My dA Gallery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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