Yata Posted May 7, 2007 Share Posted May 7, 2007 Closed, please do not post. Quote "Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former" [ dA Paint.NET Chat :: Yata on dA ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pyrochild Posted May 7, 2007 Share Posted May 7, 2007 Well as you said, the 1st amendment grants freedom of speech and religion etc, and while you're concerned with the freedom of religion part of that, due to the freedom of SPEECH, there's absolutely nothing you can do about what they say about Wicca or anything else for that matter. IANAL, and I do not know the details about which country's laws govern each individual website. Don't know if it depends on where the server is physically located, or what country the creator of the site is a citizen of, etc... Assuming U.S. domain over this page, however, the only thing you can do is to either just suck it up and move on, or somehow trick them into hosting child porn. Good luck with that. Quote ambigram signature by Kemaru [i write plugins and stuff] If you like a post, upvote it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nesk Posted May 7, 2007 Share Posted May 7, 2007 Hmm, that's a tricky one. I don't know much about how the internet works with it's rule and stuff, but if it really bothers you, you should report it. They might get it changed. But again, there is Freedom of Speech, so I'm not so sure... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Myrddin Posted May 7, 2007 Share Posted May 7, 2007 I'd get some advice either from your local police or a lawyer. Not being in the U.S. I don't know which would come first, but it's what I'd do if in your situation. Quote How to Save Your Images under Different File Types My dA Gallery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yata Posted May 7, 2007 Author Share Posted May 7, 2007 ... Quote "Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former" [ dA Paint.NET Chat :: Yata on dA ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yata Posted May 7, 2007 Author Share Posted May 7, 2007 ... Quote "Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former" [ dA Paint.NET Chat :: Yata on dA ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pyrochild Posted May 7, 2007 Share Posted May 7, 2007 Well as you said, the 1st amendment grants freedom of speech and religion etc, and while you're concerned with the freedom of religion part of that, due to the freedom of SPEECH, there's absolutely nothing you can do about what they say about Wicca or anything else for that matter. IANAL, and I do not know the details about which country's laws govern each individual website. Don't know if it depends on where the server is physically located, or what country the creator of the site is a citizen of, etc... Assuming U.S. domain over this page, however, the only thing you can do is to either just suck it up and move on, or somehow trick them into hosting child porn. Good luck with that. There is also slander and libel, take that into consideration? yes, but: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libel#United_States_law edit: if only you lived in Singapore: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libel#Singapore_law Quote ambigram signature by Kemaru [i write plugins and stuff] If you like a post, upvote it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usedHONDA Posted May 7, 2007 Share Posted May 7, 2007 Isn't there a "report this webpage" button on the Google toolbar or something? I don't know after I removed over half of the buttons. Check this out: http://www.cambs.police.uk/truevision/racist/index.html (although it's a .uk site) Quote "The greatest thing about the Internet is that you can write anything you want and give it a false source." ~Ezra Pound twtr | dA | tmblr | yt | fb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pyrochild Posted May 7, 2007 Share Posted May 7, 2007 Isn't there a "report this webpage" button on the Google toolbar or something? I don't know after I removed over half of the buttons. I believe the reprt button is only for phishing. Not sure though... I dislike 3rd party toolbars. Quote ambigram signature by Kemaru [i write plugins and stuff] If you like a post, upvote it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yata Posted May 7, 2007 Author Share Posted May 7, 2007 ... Quote "Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former" [ dA Paint.NET Chat :: Yata on dA ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pyrochild Posted May 7, 2007 Share Posted May 7, 2007 If only I lived there....Then what else I can do? Any way I could try to get a law passed? If so how? write congress, senate, your governor, your mayor, and maybe a few other mayors just for good measure, the president, but most of all TALK TO A LAWYER Quote ambigram signature by Kemaru [i write plugins and stuff] If you like a post, upvote it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usedHONDA Posted May 7, 2007 Share Posted May 7, 2007 Talk to your local congressman. Then he'll talk to the the State, then they'll talk to the senate, then it'll go to the president, then if it sounds good enough, it'll become a law. BTW, sorry if I didn't describe the system right. My political sense is deluding. Quote "The greatest thing about the Internet is that you can write anything you want and give it a false source." ~Ezra Pound twtr | dA | tmblr | yt | fb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yata Posted May 7, 2007 Author Share Posted May 7, 2007 ... Quote "Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former" [ dA Paint.NET Chat :: Yata on dA ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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pyrochild Posted May 7, 2007 Share Posted May 7, 2007 Wait, Pyro, or somone, enplain this paragraph from WikiDefenses to claims of defamation include: * Truth is an absolute defense in the United States as well as in Canada (with the exception of Quebec). In some other countries it is also necessary to show a benefit to the public good in having the information brought to light. From one of the pages Pyro gave me. (IANAL, so take EVERYTHING I SAY about law with a grain of salt) What that means is that if what they said (the libel/slander) can be proven TRUE, then the defense basically wins right then and there, as if it's true then it's not technically libel or slander. Quote ambigram signature by Kemaru [i write plugins and stuff] If you like a post, upvote it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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usedHONDA Posted May 7, 2007 Share Posted May 7, 2007 Local congressmen (I don't know what district you live in) Quote "The greatest thing about the Internet is that you can write anything you want and give it a false source." ~Ezra Pound twtr | dA | tmblr | yt | fb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jake2k Posted May 7, 2007 Share Posted May 7, 2007 You must realize that even if you get the site shutdown or whatever it is your looking to do there someone else will just pop up in his/her place. The internet/world is full of people with many different opinions and that will never change. If you truly and 100% believe in whatever it is you believe in than what someone else says should not bother you in the least bit. I would die for my religion if it came down to it and nothing anybody says will ever change that so i say let em talk/write whatever the hell they want to cause at the end of the day i know who's right, ME. Quote ^Click to visit my Flickr Gallery^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Man Dan Posted May 7, 2007 Share Posted May 7, 2007 If you want to go a more personal route before you try to take legal action, you could always try contacting the administrator of the site. If they don't have contact information listed, you can do a WhoIs lookup (http://whois.domaintools.com/.[ext]) and find out. But really, religion is a personal thing. I'm a Christian, and I believe with my entire being that God exists, He sent His son to die for my sins, bla bla bla I'm sure you've heard it all before. If, however, I tried to take action against everyone on the internet who claimed that God cannot be proven factually and is therefore a figment created within myself out of a need for the knowledge of something deeper, I'd have little time left for anything else. I'm truly sorry that you were offended by the claims made by the site in question, and I in no way encourage religious discrimination or slandering. Without looking at the site myself (and knowing the true facts about Wicca), I could not make a call as to whether or not the claims made by the site are heinous to the point of being punishable. If the admin of the site intends to slander the Wiccan religion by presenting knowingly false data as fact, then you may indeed be able to successfully take action against the site. Best wishes for happy fishes! Quote I am not a mechanism, I am part of the resistance; I am an organism, an animal, a creature, I am a beast. ~ Becoming the Archetype Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Cornipsus Posted May 7, 2007 Share Posted May 7, 2007 I'm pretty sure the best way to handle this situation is to talk to the webmaster. He will probably understand. Quote The God of Judgement is not pleased... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BoltBait Posted May 7, 2007 Share Posted May 7, 2007 There is always a way to contact them... You know, it might be easier if you just grew a thick skin and simply "got over it". Everyone has a different opinion on everything. Trying to silence a web site because they have a different opinion than you is just silly. If I wanted to create a web site that said "All wiccans are idiots are are going straight to hell" there's not much you could do about it legally. That said... I'm really getting tired of you preaching your wiccan religon on this forum. Can we put our religious differences aside and start talking about how great Paint.NET is? Please? Quote Click to play: Download: BoltBait's Plugin Pack | CodeLab | and how about a Computer Dominos Game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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