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Oh, and I've been thinking, should we create a philosophy/religion/politics discussion thread? I've always wanted to see what the PDN forumgoers believe. The only rule I'd suggest a no smear rule. As I recall, there used to be someone that insulted Christains in pretty much every thread he entered, becoming a counterexample of a model citizen. I believe, if done in a civil enogh fassion, this could become one of the most professionally executed threads around. I bring up the subject here because this is probably the least bitter community I've ever gone to.

I would hang in there. 8)

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I agree it would be cool, I have always had some weird thoughts I never shared with anyone, maybe you would find my thought new and innovating (or just boring, but there's only one way to find out).

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No, no. I think that it would work: I've participated in many debates in the past which have been locked, not because they became offensive, but because they went on for so long that the original thread became impossible to salvage. I feel that with the present community we have here would accept the spirit of the thread and it would become an incredible success. I'd love to sling my guns around in there!

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Hmm... I didn't realize we had some Muse listeners on here - I've been plugging in Muse references for the past two years, and have had no response until the Resistance :P

Regarding the debate / philosophy topic: I think it could be a good idea, but there would have to be a strict structure.

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The idea of a religion thread fills me with abject terror.

 

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The Doctor: You know fairy tales. A good wizard tricked it.
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Oh, and I've been thinking, should we create a philosophy/religion/politics discussion thread?

No good can come from this.

Trust me.

I am a mod on another board with one of those threads and I ban more people in that thread than in the entire rest of the forum combined.

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Oh, and I've been thinking, should we create a philosophy/religion/politics discussion thread?

No good can come from this.

Trust me.

I am a mod on another board with one of those threads and I ban more people in that thread than in the entire rest of the forum combined.

Just delete the thread then, ahah.

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As much as I enjoy a good debate, I've always believed that you shouldn't enter into one unless you're willing to change your mind if proven wrong - if you come to the table absolutely dead-set in your position, it'll just devolve into a shouting match. Well, there's two problems. One, beliefs are often things we've grown up with, things that are deeply ingrained into us, and things we don't tend to give up easily. Two, Religion is inherently scarce on the "proof" bit - there's no way I could prove to an atheist that a non-corporeal God exists. Too often, arguments about a religion end up simply as one detractor saying "prove it is so" and the believer saying "prove it isn't so". :roll:

While I do think the community of decidedly intellectually minded folk we have here would fair better than most, I'm dubious as to how long it would last.

On an unrelated note, anybody watch Fringe last night? Check this thread title:

viewtopic.php?f=12&t=31701 :lol:

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I believe that people should be able to debate if they want. Their points just need to be facts and opinions (that are not offensive). I personally don't like to argue with people, but a deep conversation would be nice.

I think we can have a thread to discuss certain issues, just nothing to debate about.

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I see CMD's point, however. If you go into a discussion expecting to 'correct' everyone else, you're just getting into trouble.

Shock, I don't think people would keep discussions at discussions - they would eventually have to become either dead, or crazy.

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I see CMD's point, however. If you go into a discussion expecting to 'correct' everyone else, you're just getting into trouble.

Shock, I don't think people would keep discussions at discussions - they would eventually have to become either dead, or crazy.

Yeah that's probably the downside. You never know who's going to jump into the discussion and cause a ruckus. :|

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Yeah that's probably the downside. You never know who's going to jump into the discussion and cause a ruckus. :|

My bet would be Axle. ;):P

See, I used two emoticons there, to make it doubly apparent that I'm just joking. ;)

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Reading your discussion on the debate thread idea kinda proves my point- we're all so cautious about this thread going out of control, we don't want it created.

For perspective, this kinda reminds me about when the US Constitution was being created. The nation was split as to supporting the Federalist ideal of creating a centralized govornment, based on the fear that the govornment would be corrupted and turn to another monarchy. However, through the power of collaboration and civil obedience, they managed to create a system relatively unmodified for over 200 years.

What I'm saying is, with enough structure, this could work. Rule one should be to open your mind, the second to respect no matter what. The latter is something this forum has done well for quite a while. Remember Yata? Despite his uncommon Wiccan beliefs, we treated him like everyone else, and the same to us.

A third rule should be to not take anything as a personal offense, to keep in mind the debate is about collective beliefs, not them.

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