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Oh gosh, the things I have to do to make sure the Paint.NET v4 installer works in all the right scenarios ...

So I need to test that it works on a 'fresh' 64-bit system that doesn't have the Visual C++ 2008 runtimes installed, as I'm using some private SxS assembly stuff for the installer (don't ask). Virtual PC doesn't support 64-bit guest OS's so I dug up an Athlon 64 3200 ... just for kicks I wanted to take the CPU out, which involved removing the heatsink/fan. Except that when I remove the heatsink/fan, there was no CPU in the socket. I was confused ...

... It's was stuck to the bottom of the heatsink! (yes, the CPU came out even with the socket's lever in the "down" position...) It was basically glued there because of the thermal paste that was used. And it would NOT come off, no matter how much twisting or leverage I applied to it -- bear in mind the amount of leverage I tried was relatively minimal because I didn't want to bend or break any pins.

There I am trying to use a knife and contact cleaner (basically alcohol in a spray can) to unstick this thing, when I vaguely remember some properties I read about thermal goop. Something about when it gets hot, it turns to a liquid form, and then it dries back up when settling back to room/cold temperature. This is what a lot of thermal goop relies on so that it can correctly fill in all the microscopic holes and gaps between the CPU's heat spreader and the heatsink.

So ... I found a lighter and fired it up on the heatsink for all of 5 seconds. Then I twisted the CPU and it popped right off.

So the next time you have a CPU that's practically glued to a heatsink, just find a lighter and use it for a few seconds on the heatsink. Then twist the CPU off.

Goes back to installing Vista x64 so he can test the darned installer...

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Well this isn't exactly something you'd need to worry about unless you were removing the CPU. In this case the heatsink/fan and CPU were far away from the rest of the computer :)

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Oh gosh, the things I have to do to make sure the Paint.NET v4 installer works in all the right scenarios ...

So I need to test that it works on a 'fresh' 64-bit system that doesn't have the Visual C++ 2008 runtimes installed, as I'm using some private SxS assembly stuff for the installer (don't ask). Virtual PC doesn't support 64-bit guest OS's so I dug up an Athlon 64 3200 ... just for kicks I wanted to take the CPU out, which involved removing the heatsink/fan. Except that when I remove the heatsink/fan, there was no CPU in the socket. I was confused ...

... It's was stuck to the bottom of the heatsink! (yes, the CPU came out even with the socket's lever in the "down" position...) It was basically glued there because of the thermal paste that was used. And it would NOT come off, no matter how much twisting or leverage I applied to it -- bear in mind the amount of leverage I tried was relatively minimal because I didn't want to bend or break any pins.

There I am trying to use a knife and contact cleaner (basically alcohol in a spray can) to unstick this thing, when I vaguely remember some properties I read about thermal goop. Something about when it gets hot, it turns to a liquid form, and then it dries back up when settling back to room/cold temperature. This is what a lot of thermal goop relies on so that it can correctly fill in all the microscopic holes and gaps between the CPU's heat spreader and the heatsink.

So ... I found a lighter and fired it up on the heatsink for all of 5 seconds. Then I twisted the CPU and it popped right off.

So the next time you have a CPU that's practically glued to a heatsink, just find a lighter and use it for a few seconds on the heatsink. Then twist the CPU off.

Goes back to installing Vista x64 so he can test the darned installer...

Wow. I definitely have 2 or three processors stuck to their respective heatsinks, that have been languishing in a drawer for months. I'll try this out. Thanks Rick!

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Or you could of just started up the computer and let it run for a few minutes, that would have heated it up enough to remove it. :)

The problem I had was that I couldn't even get the CPU back into the socket. I'm sure I could have pushed down with enough force to cram it in (because, c'mon, the inverse of that is how it got out in the first place-- and remember, the lever was not moved when the CPU was removed), but that has about a 99% chance of bending and breaking all the pins.

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When I build Paint.NET.4.0.Install.exe, it is 3.8mb. If I then run the installer and then zip up the contents of what it extracts into the TEMP directory, using the full/highest settings in 7-zip, then the resultant .7z file is almost 5mb. Weird.

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I've had results like that before, mostly when trying to compress installers, though it happens fairly randomly. Go figure. :?

EDIT: I've been having some odd problems with my monitor, so on a whim I switched from the DVI cable it was using to a VGA cable, and shazam: not only are the problems gone, but color quality has definitely increased! I thought DVI was the higher quality cable!?

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Dark Messiah of Might & Magic doesn't want to work for me. Most of my current Steam games don't want to work, including the mods. I can only play HL2DM. GRAW2 is fun on t3h 1ntern3tz! S.T.A.L.K.E.R - Clear Sky didn't work. Gives me some engine error. Meh, I'm done. :lol:

Damn. Although I find the puzzle servers on HL2DM quite fun.

If you try launching Valve games with a launch option of -dxlevel 80 and -novoid, that should take care of any performance problems, and give faster load up times.

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I have been assured by many people that Rock Band 2 is even better than the first one.

Shocked, kind of. Can't wait for the Wii version, as I don't have a PS3 or 360 and am not about to shell out the cash for one.

 

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Amy: But how did it end up in there?
The Doctor: You know fairy tales. A good wizard tricked it.
River Song: I hate good wizards in fairy tales; they always turn out to be him.

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I have been assured by many people that Rock Band 2 is even better than the first one.

Shocked, kind of. Can't wait for the Wii version, as I don't have a PS3 or 360 and am not about to shell out the cash for one.

The Wii version will probably be a lot more toned down, which is why I'm getting the 360 version :P

(Along with the fact I'm not paying for more plastic instruments, most of my friends have a 360, and because I can play DLC songs on the 360)

That reminds me, Rick, do you still play Rock Band?

No.

I have Rock Band 2 now ;)

I'd wish they release it soon in the UK. Oh well, I have Moving Pictures to play while I'm waiting :P

I might make a RB sig, not too sure how I'd go about that though....

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I have been assured by many people that Rock Band 2 is even better than the first one.

Shocked, kind of. Can't wait for the Wii version, as I don't have a PS3 or 360 and am not about to shell out the cash for one.

Oh come on, it isn't much of a sacrifice to get an Xbox nowadays.

...but what am I saying? I don't even have a 360 :P

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I have been assured by many people that Rock Band 2 is even better than the first one.

Shocked, kind of. Can't wait for the Wii version, as I don't have a PS3 or 360 and am not about to shell out the cash for one.

The Wii version will probably be a lot more toned down, which is why I'm getting the 360 version :P

(Along with the fact I'm not paying for more plastic instruments, most of my friends have a 360, and because I can play DLC songs on the 360)

That reminds me, Rick, do you still play Rock Band?

No.

I have Rock Band 2 now ;)

I'd wish they release it soon in the UK. Oh well, I have Moving Pictures to play while I'm waiting :P

I might make a RB sig, not too sure how I'd go about that though....

Be glad you don't live in Australia. They are releasing THE ORIGINAL Rock Band on November 7th, almost a year after its initial release.

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I have been assured by many people that Rock Band 2 is even better than the first one.

Shocked, kind of. Can't wait for the Wii version, as I don't have a PS3 or 360 and am not about to shell out the cash for one.

Oh come on, it isn't much of a sacrifice to get an Xbox nowadays.

...but what am I saying? I don't even have a 360 :P

Oh, come on. I don't want to buy the Arcade version. I want a hard drive, dangit! :-P My Wii stores game save data on-board, I expect my Xbox to do so, also. :-)

 

The Doctor: There was a goblin, or a trickster, or a warrior... A nameless, terrible thing, soaked in the blood of a billion galaxies. The most feared being in all the cosmos. And nothing could stop it, or hold it, or reason with it. One day it would just drop out of the sky and tear down your world.
Amy: But how did it end up in there?
The Doctor: You know fairy tales. A good wizard tricked it.
River Song: I hate good wizards in fairy tales; they always turn out to be him.

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