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[Kreeos]

"You can't fix stupid." ~ Ron White

American's know. We've tried.

Just because Americans tried that doesn't prove anything

[Sozo]

"You can't fix stupid." ~ Ron White

American's know. We've tried.

Just because Americans tried that doesn't prove anything

And communism's just taken the world by storm too.

[Kreeos]

And communism's just taken the world by storm too.

Like I said, you can't fix stupid.

[Sozo]

And communism's just taken the world by storm too.

Like I said, you can't fix stupid.

It seems to me you just insulted yourself. Explanation, perhaps?

[Kreeos]

And communism's just taken the world by storm too.

Like I said, you can't fix stupid.

It seems to me you just insulted yourself. Explanation, perhaps?

I noted that you were most likely being sarcastic in that statement. In that case you really meant the opposite saying that communism isn't popular because communists are stupid. In my statement I took the meaning that communism isn't popular because everyone else is stupid. Thus my statement.

[BoltBait]

From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.

Who is to say what my abilities are?

Who determines what my needs are?

Let's play a game of "Hiding one's abilities and exaggerating one's needs", shall we?

[Kreeos]

From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.

Who is to say what my abilities are?

Who determines what my needs are?

Let's play a game of "Hiding one's abilities and exaggerating one's needs", shall we?

You're assuming that everyone is out to be better than everyone else. That's not necessarily a valid assumption.

[Simon Brown]

You're assuming that everyone is out to better than everyone else. That's not necessarily a valid assumption.

And the whole idea of communism is based on imposing the Marxist ideal.

[BoltBait]

Kreeos, I'm guessing that you don't know people very well.

[Sozo]

From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.

Who is to say what my abilities are?

Who determines what my needs are?

Let's play a game of "Hiding one's abilities and exaggerating one's needs", shall we?

You're assuming that everyone is out to be better than everyone else. That's not necessarily a valid assumption.

Heaven forbid communists should condone ambition. The horror!

[BoltBait]

Heaven forbid communists should condone ambition. The horror!

Actually, that would go against their ideals. (Unless you are talking about ambition for the whole of society.)

[Kreeos]

You're assuming that everyone is out to better than everyone else. That's not necessarily a valid assumption.

And the whole idea of communism is based on imposing the Marxist ideal.

And the whole idea of capitalism is every man for himself, f the guys that get left behind.

I'm guessing that you don't know people very well.

And you do? I seriously doubt that you're any more qualified in social psychology than I am. Besides, not everybody is out to make themselves better than everyone else. There are some people out there that are out to make the world a better place even if it means sacrificing their own position.

Heaven forbid communists should condone ambition. The horror!

You can have ambition without greed, you know.

[Simon Brown]

You're assuming that everyone is out to better than everyone else. That's not necessarily a valid assumption.

And the whole idea of communism is based on imposing the Marxist ideal.

And the whole idea of capitalism is every man for himself, f the guys that get left behind.

That is human nature - and creating ambitions for the whole of society and making them work for the whole society isn't going to change that.

[Kreeos]

That is human nature - and creating ambitions for the whole of society and making them work for the whole society isn't going to change that.

And it's reasons like that why I say humanity is too screwed up and we should just nuke everything and let nature start over.

[Simon Brown]

That is human nature - and creating ambitions for the whole of society and making them work for the whole society isn't going to change that.

And it's reasons like that why I say humanity is too screwed up and we should just nuke everything and let nature start over.

And how is communism going to achieve that?

[Kreeos]

That is human nature - and creating ambitions for the whole of society and making them work for the whole society isn't going to change that.

And it's reasons like that why I say humanity is too screwed up and we should just nuke everything and let nature start over.

And how is communism going to achieve that?

Hopefully by making humanity realize that we're all in it together and life isn't a giant competition we can evolve beyond our pettiness.

[Simon Brown]

Hopefully by making humanity realize that we're all in it together and life isn't a giant competition we can evolve beyond our pettiness.

How is suddenly imposing a new invasive philosophy involving a whole new way of life on people going to change their opinions in favor of it?

[Kreeos]

Hopefully by making humanity realize that we're all in it together and life isn't a giant competition we can evolve beyond our pettiness.

How is suddenly imposing a new philosophy on people going to change their opinions in favor of it?

If you can think of a better way feel free. Either way "every man for himself" doesn't work that well. How would you like it if you were one the people who lives under a bridge eating garbage because the economy screwed you over?

[BoltBait]

I'm guessing that you don't know people very well.

And you do? I seriously doubt that you're any more qualified in social psychology than I am. Besides, not everybody is out to make themselves better than everyone else. There are some people out there that are out to make the world a better place even if it means sacrificing their own position.

I only know what I see, and what I see is ugly.

But, in capitalism I see opportunity.

It is true that I see the value in leaving to die those who choose not to work. Why should I be forced through the sweat of my brow to put food on your table so that you can do nothing? I would rather not work than be forced into labor for your benefit. And, if you die because I refuse to work then the world is a better place.

If you want a charity, go to the church. If I am feeling generous that's where I'll give... but, don't hold your breath.

[Kreeos]

I'm guessing that you don't know people very well.

And you do? I seriously doubt that you're any more qualified in social psychology than I am. Besides, not everybody is out to make themselves better than everyone else. There are some people out there that are out to make the world a better place even if it means sacrificing their own position.

I only know what I see, and what I see is ugly.

But, in capitalism I see opportunity.

It is true that I see the value in leaving to die those who choose not to work. Why should I be forced through the sweat of my brow to put food on your table so that you can do nothing? I would rather not work than be forced into labor for your benefit. And, if you die because I refuse to work then the world is a better place.

If you want a charity, go to the church. If I am feeling generous that's where I'll give... but, don't hold your breath.

"Your eyes deceive you, don't trust them."

Appearances can be deceiving and you obviously can't see beyond your bias. You can't see that maybe your system doesn't work because you're too busy waving your flag and following the dogmatic bloody potato of your preacher.

[Yata]

God, you people are so argumentative today.

[Simon Brown]

Appearances can be deceiving and you obviously can't see beyond your bias. You can't see that maybe your system doesn't work because you're too busy waving your flag and following the dogmatic bloody potato of your preacher.

He is a libertarian, not a republican.

[Kreeos]

Appearances can be deceiving and you obviously can't see beyond your bias. You can't see that maybe your system doesn't work because you're too busy waving your flag and following the dogmatic bloody potato of your preacher.

He is a libertarian, not a republican.

Doesn't matter, really. The whole American political spectrum is skewed to the right.

[Sozo]

You can't see that maybe your system doesn't work because you're too busy waving your flag and following the dogmatic bloody potato of your preacher.

Evidently your lack of knowledge extends for the realms of economics and politics into the religious realm as well.

[BoltBait]

Appearances can be deceiving and you obviously can't see beyond your bias. You can't see that maybe your system doesn't work because you're too busy waving your flag and following the dogmatic bloody potato of your preacher.

He is a libertarian, not a republican.

Doesn't matter, really. The whole American political spectrum is skewed to the right.

This statement tells me that you know nothing of politics either. Here's more enlightnment for you: http://www.lp.org

BTW, this is getting tiring. It is simply a rerunning of this thread: viewtopic.php?f=17&t=23123 which resulted in the thread getting closed for being idiotic. Shall we close this thread as well?