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I was originally planing getting a new computer. Then I started thinking on on upgrading my current one, but then I thought building a new one from scratch would be better. Then I thought it would be even better getting it custom made by a company like Cyberpowerpc.com because it's faster. Now I'm not sure what to do!

What I'm going to get no mater what:

Intel 2 Core Duo

Vista

If I upgrade, I'll probably get a new CPU, a RAM upgrade, and Vista (Ultimate).

If I build one from scratch, I'll get an Intel G965 ATX motherboard, Intel E6600, 200GB memory and not sure of the rest. But I may take some parts from my current computer

If I get it custom built, It's almost the same as the above, but no OS installed, so I can get Vista Ultimate at the best price.

Anything on the retail as long as it has an Intel Duo and Vista Home premium (but if they still sell XP at a lower price, I'll go for that). Price rage is anything between $700 and $1200. Any recommendations?

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I would go with custom built. Its funny because i was just deciding the same thing. I was planning on custom building, but im deciding on upgrading. Im still xp, not vista yet.

From http://build-your-dream-pc.classes.cnet.com/lesson-6/

Building your own Dream PC

Pros

In general, the only tool you need is a Phillips screwdriver once you buy the components.

You know exactly what components are in your PC.

Each component you have is under its own warranty, so if one component breaks, you can replace it without buying a new PC.

Building a PC is a great skill to learn.

Cons

It takes time to build and you should be comfortable working with PC hardware and software.

You won’t have one point of contact for support calls. If it breaks, you fix it.

Buy your Dream PC off the shelf

Pros

No effort. You can take your spec sheet with you to the store to find what PC best matches what you’re looking for

Most likely, you’ll have a single point of contact for warranty issues and tech support.

Free software is usually bundled with your PC.

Cons

If you choose to use mail order on a custom PC--you may have to wait (delivery times on custom PCs can be longer than off the shelf PCs).

You may not get to choose exactly which components go into your PC.

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I like the new avatar and sig.

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This is one of the best pages on PC World (fragment of an article):

PC World[/url]":57871]With your motherboard and CPU type chosen, head to a PC site like Cyberpowerpc.com, Ibuypower.com, or Polywell.com. Each of these sellers lets you select the various components of a system that the company will then build for you. Bounce between a few sites to see which ones offer the component choices you want and also to compare prices. Then pay online and wait for delivery.

I would like a fast computer, but I'm not going to be using it for games (or not too much :D). Therefore, Alianware is way out of the picture. I checked the websites above, but I guess I was asking for too much. So I'll see how low the prices will go if I get the parts individually on Froogle...

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ok, i was just doing a little research to decide what i was going to get, and i think ive decided to build. If i upgrade my old computer, i would have to get new everything. Ill try cyberpowerpc.com now. See what ill decide on getting.

Like you just said, i could also take stuff away from my old computer, but i dont see myself doing that because theres not much to take away.

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$785.00 (before all applicable rebates) Cool! Add the price of Vista Ultimate 62 Bit (bought myself) and it comes out to $974.00! Perfect! A fast computer under $1K!

EDIT: $1,055.35 after shipping and stuff.

Specs for PC:

CASE: ($10 off Mail-in Rebate)Sigma Gaming Orca Mid-Tower 450W Case

CPU: (Sckt775)Intel® Core™ 2 Duo E6300 CPU @ 1.86GHz 1066FSB 2x1MB L2 Cache EM64T

MOTHERBOARD: (Quad-Core Supports) MSI P965 Neo-F P965 Chipset LGA775 Supports Core 2 Duo CPU FSB1066 DDR2/800 Mainboard w/GbLAN, USB2.0, &7.1Audio

MEMORY: (Req.DDR2 MainBoard)512MB PC6400 DDR2/800 Memory (Corsair Value Select or Major Brand)

VIDEO CARD: NVIDIA GeForce 7300 LE 256MB 16X PCI EXPRESS (Major Brand Powered by NVIDIA)

HARD DRIVE: Single Hard Drive (160GB SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 8MB Cache 7200RPM HDD)

Optical Drive: (Special Price) 18X DVD±R/±RW + CD-R/RW DRIVE DUAL LAYER (BLACK COLOR)

SOUND: HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD 7.1 AUDIO

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Wow, I edited my post entering my specs right when you posted.

Specific Specs:

# *BASE_PRICE: [+665]

# CAS: ($10 off Mail-in Rebate)Sigma Gaming Orca Mid-Tower 450W Case [-25]

# CASUPGRADE: NONE

# CPU: (Sckt775)Intel® Core™ 2 Duo E6400 CPU @ 2.13GHz 1066FSB 2x1MB L2 Cache EM64T [+35]

# CD: 16X DVD ROM [-21] (BLACK COLOR)

# CD2: NONE

# CABLE: None

# FLOPPY: NONE [-5]

# FLASHMEDIA: INTERNAL 12in1 Flash Media Reader/Writer [+10] (BLACK COLOR)

# FAN: INTEL LGA775 CERTIFIED CPU FAN & HEATSINK

# HDD: Single Hard Drive (200GB SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 8MB Cache 7200RPM HDD [+16])

# HDD2: NONE

# IEEE_CARD: NONE

# KEYBOARD: NONE [-7]

# MOUSE: NONE [-5]

# MONITOR: NONE

# MONITOR2: NONE

# MOTHERBOARD: (Quad-Core Supports) Intel DP965LT P965 Chipset LGA775 Supports Core 2 Duo CPU FSB1066 DDR2/800 Mainboard w/GbLAN,USB2.0,IEEE1394&7.1Audio [+15]

# MEMORY: (Req.DDR2 MainBoard)1GB (2x512MB) PC6400 DDR2/800 Dual Channel Memory [+90] (Corsair XMS2 Xtreme Memory w/ Heat Spreader [+27])

# MODEM: NONE

# NETWORK: ONBOARD 10/100 NETWORK CARD

# OS: NONE - FORMAT HARD DRIVE ONLY

# PPU: NONE

# PRO_WIRING: None

# PRINTER: None

# PRINTER_CABLE: None

# POWERSUPPLY: STANDARD CASE POWER SUPPLY

# RUSH: NO; READY TO SHIP IN 5~10 BUSINESS DAYS

# SERVICE: STANDARD WARRANTY: 3-YEAR LIMITED WARRANTY PLUS 24/7 LIFE-TIME TECHNICAL SUPPORT

# SOUND: HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD 7.1 AUDIO

# SPEAKERS: NONE [-5]

# TEMP: NONE (AS SHOWN)

# TVRC: None

# UPS: None

# USB: Built-in USB 2.0 Ports

# USBHD: NONE

# VIDEO: NVIDIA GeForce 7300 LE 256MB 16X PCI EXPRESS (EVGA Powered by NVIDIA [+5])

# VIDEO2: NONE

# VIDEOCAMERA: NONE

# WNC: NONE

# WAP: NONE

# ZIP: NONE

# _PRICE: (+795)

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Yeah, I was planning on the E6600 (highest rated CPU on PC World). Right now I'm Froogling all of the parts to see how much it would cost if I went it alone.

EDIT: I'm not into cool looking cases, but I don't want the ugliest thing around. Frankly, I don't think the case should be the most looked at thing. It should be the OS ;)

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Well im done. Final price is 1612. Ill probobly come back and edit some stuff, but heres the specs.

*BASE_PRICE: [+545]

CAS: Thermaltake Bach VX Mid-Tower 420W Case with Side Window [+40]

CASUPGRADE: 12in COLD CATHODE NEON LIGHT [+10] (RED COLOR)

CPU: ($50 off Mail-in Rebate)(Socket AM2) AMD Athlonâ„¢64 X2 5200+ Dual-Core CPU w/ HyperTransport Technology [+190]

CD: (Special Price) 18X DVD±R/±RW + CD-R/RW DRIVE DUAL LAYER (RED COLOR [+9])

CD2: LiteOn LH-20A1H 20X Double Layer DVD+-RW Super Allwrite + Lightscribe Technology [+59] (Red Color [+9])

CABLE: None

FLOPPY: 1.44 MB FLOPPY DRIVE (BLUE COLOR [+7])

FLASHMEDIA: None

FREEBIE_CU1: FREE! AGE OF EMPIRE III

FREEBIE_CU2: FREE! RISE OF NATIONS: RISE OF LEGENDS

FREEBIE_CU3: FREE! Cyberpower Unleash The Power T-Shirt with AMD Logo on the back ($19.99 Value)

FAN: AMD ATHLON64 CERTIFIED CPU FAN & HEATSINK + 2 EXTRA 3-COLOR LED CASE FANS [+19]

FREEBIE_VC: FREE! Dark Messiah - Might And Magic

GEAR: QPAD XT-R2 Hard-Surface Extreme Gaming Mouse Pad [+45]

HDD: Single Hard Drive (500GB SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 16MB Cache 7200RPM HDD [+126])

HDD2: NONE

IEEE_CARD: NONE

KEYBOARD: NONE [-7]

MOUSE: NONE [-2]

MODEM: NONE

MONITOR: NONE

MONITOR2: NONE

MOTHERBOARD: (Socket AM2)ABIT FATAL1TY AN9 32X nForce 590 SLI MCP Chipset DDR2/800 MBoard w/ Dual PCI-Express [+88]

MEMORY: (Req.DDR2 MainBoard)2GB (2x1GB) PC6400 DDR2/800 Dual Channel Memory [+270] (Corsair Value Select or Major Brand)

NETWORK: ONBOARD 10/100 NETWORK CARD

OS: NONE - FORMAT HARD DRIVE ONLY

PRINTER: None

PRINTER_CABLE: None

PRO_WIRING: Professional Wiring for All WIRINGs Inside The System Chasis with High Performance Thermal Compound on CPU [+19]

PPU: NONE

POWERSUPPLY: Apevia ATX-LCD650W Quartz Aluminum LCD Power Supply w/ Voltages and Fan Speed Controller & Display [+105]

RUSH: NO; READY TO SHIP IN 5~10 BUSINESS DAYS

SERVICE: STANDARD WARRANTY: 3-YEAR LIMITED WARRANTY PLUS 24/7 LIFE-TIME TECHNICAL SUPPORT

SOUND: HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD 7.1 AUDIO

SPEAKERS: NONE [-5]

TEMP: NONE (AS SHOWN)

TVRC: None

UPS: None

USB: Built-in USB 2.0 Ports

USBHD: NONE

VIDEO: NEW !!! NVIDIA GeForce 7600 GS 512MB PCI Express x16 [+80] (EVGA Powered by NVIDIA [+5])

VIDEO2: NONE

VIDEOCAMERA: NONE

WNC: NONE

WAP: NONE

ZIP: NONE

Post some recomendations and stuff. Ill be back tommorow

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After hours of Froogling and 13 Bookmarks, I got this:

 Case:                         $53.50
CPU (Intl E6600):              313.00
Optical Drive:                 32.98
52-in-1aMedia Card:            21.28
Fan:                           37.00
Hard Drive(6V200E0):           89.00
Motherboard (BOXDP965L):       133.33
RAM (Kingston):                159.44
Ethernet Card: (Kingston):     5.99
OS (Vista Ultimate 62 Bit):    195.35
Sound Card (7.1 Surround):     34.80
USB 2.0 Ports:                 11.99
3D Card:                       50.96
+_______________________________________
                              $1,132.63
Cyberpowerpc.com:..............$1,164.35
Savings:.......................$31.72

Worth it? Who knows?

Shipping is included in all of the prices. One good thing is that I won't be needing all of what is there (like the media card and sound card).

BTW, I can give you the links if you want.

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if you want to save money and really have a one of a kind case just buy a cheap "normal" case and customize it yourself (windows, lights, vents, paint, etc.) Then not only do you have a one-off case but you had fun making it ;) .

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RAM (Kingston): 159.44

2 x 512? I will prefer 1 x 1 Go to ease upgrading.

The Hard Drive sounds cheap ( = will broke in 3 months, imho). And the Optical drive too, but maybe it's because the prices are in $.

Are you buying an additional usb card?

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