Jedis Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 (edited) I have two images. One is the original. The second image is the replacement. I need to size the second image to meet the dimensions of the first image so that it can be used as a replacement on a website. In Photoshop, all I do is select the cropping tool, enter in the height and width to lock the dimensions at, and I can click and drag. The selection box stays proportionate to the dimensions entered. However, with paint.net, if I select the selection tool, click fixed ratio, and enter in my width and height, the box does scale to the dimensions entered to the edge of the photo, and then continues to allow you to drag, completely ignoring the dimensions entered! How do I stop it from doing this? Edited October 23, 2015 by Jedis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david.atwell Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 Choose the "Move Selection" tool and drag from the center of the selection instead of the handles. Quote The Doctor: There was a goblin, or a trickster, or a warrior... A nameless, terrible thing, soaked in the blood of a billion galaxies. The most feared being in all the cosmos. And nothing could stop it, or hold it, or reason with it. One day it would just drop out of the sky and tear down your world.Amy: But how did it end up in there?The Doctor: You know fairy tales. A good wizard tricked it.River Song: I hate good wizards in fairy tales; they always turn out to be him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pdnnoob Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 Instead of using "fixed ratio," use "fixed size." Fixed ratio only keeps the ratio between the height and width constant. It won't keep the actual size the same. Quote No, Paint.NET is not spyware...but, installing it is an IQ test. ~BoltBait Blend modes are like the filling in your sandwich. It's the filling that can change your experience of the sandwich. ~Ego Eram Reputo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red ochre Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 I think Jedis means that the fixed size selection can be dragged past the edge of the canvas so that after cropping it is not the size (or ratio) selected.I do not know of any way around this, currently?. It can be tricky to line up right on the edge ...and then I often get it wrong by a pixel or two!It's good to keep an eye on the coordinates of 'Selection top left' of the bounding rectangle. (Down in the bottom left hand of the window.) Quote Red ochre Plugin pack.............. Diabolical Drawings ................Real Paintings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eli Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 Perhaps View Framer made by MJW can assist when resizing and rotating. I use it often when dragging past the edge of the canvas becomes an inconvenience or when edditing several images. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Djisves Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 ... I do not know of any way around this, currently?. It can be tricky to line up right on the edge ...and then I often get it wrong by a pixel or two! .. When I need to crop and keep one of the original edges and/or corners, I always use Image > Canvas Size. Sometimes, when there is a need for it, followed by the Crop to Selection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racerx Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 I have two images. One is the original. The second image is the replacement. I need to size the second image to meet the dimensions of the first image so that it can be used as a replacement on a website. In Photoshop, all I do is select the cropping tool, enter in the height and width to lock the dimensions at, and I can click and drag. The selection box stays proportionate to the dimensions entered. However, with paint.net, if I select the selection tool, click fixed ratio, and enter in my width and height, the box does scale to the dimensions entered to the edge of the photo, and then continues to allow you to drag, completely ignoring the dimensions entered! How do I stop it from doing this? You are comparing a $600 + program with a Free program, maybe you have unreasonable expectations? Most (free) image editors work the same way. You need to take the extra steps to get the desired results, plain and simple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJW Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 I like the way PDN uses Crop to Selection instead of having a separate Crop command. I think it's a cleaner, more flexible solution. There are two changes that would improve the Rectangle Select command. First, when the selection is a fixed size or ratio, there could be the option of confining the selection to the canvas so that the on-canvas selection maintains the specified size or ratio. Second, the selection could be movable with keyboard arrow commands for precise positioning. The second is just a convenience, to avoid having to make the selection then use Move Selection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red ochre Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 There are two changes that would improve the Rectangle Select command. First, when the selection is a fixed size or ratio, there could be the option of confining the selection to the canvas so that the on-canvas selection maintains the specified size or ratio. Second, the selection could be movable with keyboard arrow commands for precise positioning. The second is just a convenience, to avoid having to make the selection then use Move Selection. Exactly my thoughts (but realize all U.I. changes involve risk and must be thoroughly considered). Quote Red ochre Plugin pack.............. Diabolical Drawings ................Real Paintings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ego Eram Reputo Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 When casting a selection hold down the second mouse button (yep - both of them). Now you can drag the selection around. Release the second button to go back to normal selection casting. It may be that the arrow keys will move the selection when both buttons are down (I'm not at my PC and can't check right now). 2 Quote ebook: Mastering Paint.NET | resources: Plugin Index | Stereogram Tut | proud supporter of Codelab plugins: EER's Plugin Pack | Planetoid | StickMan | WhichSymbol+ | Dr Scott's Markup Renderer | CSV Filetype | dwarf horde plugins: Plugin Browser | ShapeMaker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJW Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 (edited) That's very useful to know. Fixed-size selections don't require the second button be held down. They always move with the cursor. EDIT: I couldn't get the selection to move with the keyboard arrows even when holding down both buttons. I also tried (without success) a few other things, such as holding down the shift and the control key. Edited October 24, 2015 by MJW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racerx Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 The cropping tool in PDN clearly does not compete with PhotoShop no matter what tricks you can come up with. It is one of the greatest reasons that I still keep a very old version (PhotoShop7- circa 2002) of PhotoShop on my editing DeskTop. It makes cropping images for Blu-Ray format resolution sooooo much easier.......... Let's be honest, I like PDN as much as the next guy, but the cropping tool is not up to par with that of Photo Shop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ego Eram Reputo Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 EDIT: I couldn't get the selection to move with the keyboard arrows even when holding down both buttons. I also tried (without success) a few other things, such as holding down the shift and the control key. Really? It works for me.... 1. Start dragging out a rectangular selection (fixed ratio or Normal). 2. Keep the first mouse button down and then also hold down the second mouse button. 3. With both buttons held down, drag the selection shape around the canvas. 4. While both buttons are down, the arrow keys move the selection around on a per pixel basis. Quote ebook: Mastering Paint.NET | resources: Plugin Index | Stereogram Tut | proud supporter of Codelab plugins: EER's Plugin Pack | Planetoid | StickMan | WhichSymbol+ | Dr Scott's Markup Renderer | CSV Filetype | dwarf horde plugins: Plugin Browser | ShapeMaker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishi Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 I think its better if a crop selection and a crop command are two separate things. I personally like the crop selection of PDN, only that I sometimes accidentally press it instead of the Deselect button. I crop command should be a separate thing in the UI where you get resizing handles for a selection and the areas outside the selection are darkened. You also got preset aspect ratios in what you would allow the selection to be. If it is possible on a future version of PDN or through a plugin that opens its own window on the UI, that would be great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJW Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 Really? It works for me.... I have no idea why it didn't seem to work when I tried it before. It does work, which is quite convenient. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barbieq25 Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 Did you select "move selection" tool before trying to move it? I know it is sometimes the simple things that trip us up Quote Knowledge is no burden to carry. April Jones, 2012 Gallery My DA Gallery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ego Eram Reputo Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 Move Selection is not required - the technique works when you're actually casting the selection i.e. the Rectangle Select tool (or any other shape selection tool) is active. Quote ebook: Mastering Paint.NET | resources: Plugin Index | Stereogram Tut | proud supporter of Codelab plugins: EER's Plugin Pack | Planetoid | StickMan | WhichSymbol+ | Dr Scott's Markup Renderer | CSV Filetype | dwarf horde plugins: Plugin Browser | ShapeMaker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barbieq25 Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 Ah Ok, I see what you mean now. Quote Knowledge is no burden to carry. April Jones, 2012 Gallery My DA Gallery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ego Eram Reputo Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 Neat trick isn't it? Quote ebook: Mastering Paint.NET | resources: Plugin Index | Stereogram Tut | proud supporter of Codelab plugins: EER's Plugin Pack | Planetoid | StickMan | WhichSymbol+ | Dr Scott's Markup Renderer | CSV Filetype | dwarf horde plugins: Plugin Browser | ShapeMaker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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