Incredibly slow initial startup

[geniosity]

Hi

 

I love this product, and I've been using it for probably over 7 years now (I can't remember off hand exactly how long).

 

But, unfortunately, it's getting to be a little unusable, because all I need it for are very minor edits (like screenshots, etc) or just a place to PASTE screenshots for reference. The problem is, the startup time for this program can be well over 60 seconds on a cold startup.

 

I'll paste my laptop details below, but please tell me if there's anything that can be done on my side (including debugging startups) to help improve this.

 

thanks

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Application paint.net 4.0.5 (Final 4.5.5454.39504)

Build Date 07 December 2014

 

Hardware accelerated rendering (GPU) True

Animations True

DPI 96.00 (1.00x scale)

Language en-US

 

OS Windows 7 Service Pack 1 (6.1.7601.65536)

.NET Runtime 4.0.30319.18063

Physical Memory 12 238 MB

 

CPU Intel® Core i5-2520M CPU @ 2.50GHz

    Architecture x64 (64-bit)

    Process Mode 64-bit

    Speed ~2494 MHz

    Cores / Threads 4

    Features DEP, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSSE3, SSE4_1, SSE4_2, XSAVE

 

Video Card AMD Radeon HD 6470M

    Dedicated Video RAM 1 004 MB

    Dedicated System RAM 0 MB

    Shared System RAM 5 863 MB

    Vendor ID 0x1002

    Device ID 0x6760

    Subsystem ID 0x161E103C

    Revision 0

    LUID 0x0000AFE2

    Flags None

    Outputs 2

[BoltBait]

Try reinstalling and see if that fixes the problem.

[Rick Brewster]

Do you have lots of plugins? That can cause a long startup. If so, remove the ones you don't need.

 

If you don't have an SSD, and aren't planning on getting one (although I highly recommend one, not just for paint.net), then do the usual thing of defragmenting.

 

BoltBait's advice to reinstall may seem weird, but it does force a re-run of NGEN. You can also open an admin command prompt and run "ngen update" (ngen is somewhere in c:\windows\microsoft.net\framework64\v4.something_or_other).

[BoltBait]

BoltBait's advice to reinstall may seem weird, but it does force a re-run of NGEN.

 

That   is EXACTLY what I was after.

 

I figured asking them to run an install would be easier than explaining how to run ngen.   

[geniosity]

Wow, very interesting. I can't do the uninstall right now, but thought I'd run the ngen command (because I've never seen it before.... go figure).

 

Anyway, interesting output related directly to Paint.net:

 

Failed to load dependency Microsoft.VisualStudio.OLE.Interop of assembly Microsoft.VisualStudio.Tools.Off

ice.ContainerControl.v10.0, Version=10.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=b03f5f7f11d50a3a because of

 the following error : The system cannot find the file specified. (Exception from HRESULT: 0x80070002)

Failed to load dependency PaintDotNet.SystemLayer.Native.x86 of assembly PaintDotNet.SystemLayer, Version

=4.5.5454.39504, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null because of the following error : An attempt was mad

e to load a program with an incorrect format. (Exception from HRESULT: 0x8007000B)

Failed to load dependency PaintDotNet.SystemLayer.Native.x86 of assembly PaintDotNet.SystemLayer, Version

=4.5.5454.39504, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null because of the following error : An attempt was mad

e to load a program with an incorrect format. (Exception from HRESULT: 0x8007000B)

Failed to load dependency PaintDotNet.SystemLayer.Native.x86 of assembly PaintDotNet.SystemLayer, Version

=4.5.5454.39504, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null because of the following error : An attempt was mad

e to load a program with an incorrect format. (Exception from HRESULT: 0x8007000B)

Failed to load dependency PaintDotNet.SystemLayer.Native.x86 of assembly PaintDotNet.SystemLayer, Version

=4.5.5454.39504, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null because of the following error : An attempt was mad

e to load a program with an incorrect format. (Exception from HRESULT: 0x8007000B)

Failed to load dependency PaintDotNet.SystemLayer.Native.x86 of assembly PaintDotNet.SystemLayer, Version

=4.5.5454.39504, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null because of the following error : An attempt was mad

e to load a program with an incorrect format. (Exception from HRESULT: 0x8007000B)

Failed to load dependency PaintDotNet.SystemLayer.Native.x86 of assembly PaintDotNet.SystemLayer, Version

=4.5.5454.39504, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null because of the following error : An attempt was mad

e to load a program with an incorrect format. (Exception from HRESULT: 0x8007000B)

Failed to load dependency PaintDotNet.SystemLayer.Native.x86 of assembly PaintDotNet.SystemLayer, Version

=4.5.5454.39504, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null because of the following error : An attempt was mad

e to load a program with an incorrect format. (Exception from HRESULT: 0x8007000B)

Failed to load dependency Microsoft.VisualStudio.OLE.Interop of assembly Microsoft.VisualStudio.Tools.Off

ice.ContainerControl, Version=10.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=b03f5f7f11d50a3a because of the f

ollowing error : The system cannot find the file specified. (Exception from HRESULT: 0x80070002)

My next task would be to DO the uninstall/reinstall, unless you can see something that would suggest another issue.

[Ego Eram Reputo]

How many Effects do you have installed?  I have a MASSIVE amount and it certainly does affect startup speed.

 

Try this before reinstalling:  Rename the Effects folder & restart.  That will load zero Effect plugins.

 

DO remember to change the name of the effects folder back again before trying the reinstall.

[geniosity]

I don't have anything installed other than what comes standard with the program. I recently reloaded my laptop, and installed Paint.net straight afterwards, and it was slow immediately.

[geniosity]

The reinstall does seem to have helped though. Just rebooted and opening the app has only about a 5-10 seconds delay. I can handle that in comparison...

 

ngen still has the same errors though.

[BoltBait]

The reinstall does seem to have helped though. Just rebooted and opening the app has only about a 5-10 seconds delay.

 

I'm glad you got this working.

 

The installer runs ngen and I suspect that's what fixed the problem.

 

There are lots reasons why a precompiled image in the GAC could become invalid, including:

• .NET Framework update causes all native images to become invalid
• Computer CPU update
• Some changes made to the OS
• Recompilation of an assembly to IL causes existing native images of that assembly to become invalid
• Recompilation of a referenced assembly causes the native image to the referencing assembly to become invalid
• Change in machine security policy
• Running ngen /delete <assembly name>

I'm not sure what caused it in your case.  But, that's probably what it was.

[Rick Brewster]

The errors from NGEN don't matter, they're normal. It's just a worry wart.