Patrick93 Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 Hi, If i open Paint net with an rFactor Sim Racing template. My pc will be so slow. My CPU is running high and my rams are on 95% ! why ? Paint net using 5GB of my Rams :O But i dont know why ? My Computer : Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 - 2 x 2,4 GHZ6GB RAMAsus Radeon HD 7790 - 2GBWindows 7 - 64 Bit Here a little test Pic : i hope you can help me. sorry for my bad englisch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david.atwell Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 How many layers do you have in that image? Quote The Doctor: There was a goblin, or a trickster, or a warrior... A nameless, terrible thing, soaked in the blood of a billion galaxies. The most feared being in all the cosmos. And nothing could stop it, or hold it, or reason with it. One day it would just drop out of the sky and tear down your world.Amy: But how did it end up in there?The Doctor: You know fairy tales. A good wizard tricked it.River Song: I hate good wizards in fairy tales; they always turn out to be him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick93 Posted February 25, 2014 Author Share Posted February 25, 2014 12... But its only with DDS and PSD files. But it works perfectly with JPEG and PNG ? Why ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david.atwell Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 DDS and PSD files are pretty big. They store a lot of metadata. In addition to the fact that it's a fairly large image with multiple layers...I think that might be your problem. Take a look at this post for more information. I know you're not getting that error, but it's still applicable. You may want to try the new 4.0 beta. It has a new architecture for dealing with files that might dial down your RAM usage a bit. Quote The Doctor: There was a goblin, or a trickster, or a warrior... A nameless, terrible thing, soaked in the blood of a billion galaxies. The most feared being in all the cosmos. And nothing could stop it, or hold it, or reason with it. One day it would just drop out of the sky and tear down your world.Amy: But how did it end up in there?The Doctor: You know fairy tales. A good wizard tricked it.River Song: I hate good wizards in fairy tales; they always turn out to be him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ego Eram Reputo Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 JPG and PNG only support a single layer. A multi-layered image will take up a great deal of space because of the extra layers. I think the problem is that the image is fairly large with many layers. Solution? Reduce the number of layers and/or more RAM. Or follow David's advice and try 4.0. Quote ebook: Mastering Paint.NET | resources: Plugin Index | Stereogram Tut | proud supporter of Codelab plugins: EER's Plugin Pack | Planetoid | StickMan | WhichSymbol+ | Dr Scott's Markup Renderer | CSV Filetype | dwarf horde plugins: Plugin Browser | ShapeMaker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick93 Posted February 25, 2014 Author Share Posted February 25, 2014 But i must install the Psd Plug-in too. To open a psd file in the 4.0 Beta. ? Than i will have the same Problem. Or can i Open it without the plug-in, in 4.0 ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ego Eram Reputo Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 If you are updating an earlier version of Paint.NET there is no need to reinstall the plugin. It will be automatically available following the update.If you do not currently have the plugin installed, then you will need to install it. You are being advised to try the 4.0 version because it handles images in a different way which saves memory. Quote ebook: Mastering Paint.NET | resources: Plugin Index | Stereogram Tut | proud supporter of Codelab plugins: EER's Plugin Pack | Planetoid | StickMan | WhichSymbol+ | Dr Scott's Markup Renderer | CSV Filetype | dwarf horde plugins: Plugin Browser | ShapeMaker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick93 Posted February 26, 2014 Author Share Posted February 26, 2014 Done. But it still the same :-( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ego Eram Reputo Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 I guess you're left with these options ... Solution? Reduce the number of layers and/or more RAM. Or follow David's advice and try 4.0. Quote ebook: Mastering Paint.NET | resources: Plugin Index | Stereogram Tut | proud supporter of Codelab plugins: EER's Plugin Pack | Planetoid | StickMan | WhichSymbol+ | Dr Scott's Markup Renderer | CSV Filetype | dwarf horde plugins: Plugin Browser | ShapeMaker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick93 Posted February 27, 2014 Author Share Posted February 27, 2014 No. i dont must buy new and more rams. because i have tested the Photoshop Trail Version. And it works well. All of my programms runs good... only paint makes my computer slow ... you must update you programm. better Plugins and Performance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ego Eram Reputo Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 Paint.NET does not work the same way as other programs. The developer is in the process of updating the application to make it even better - that's the beta 4.0 that we suggested you download. Paint.NET works this way. You will have to get used to it. The image size and number of layers affects the amount of RAM used. Using this formula (W x H x 4) x (L + 2) (for an explanation see: http://forums.getpaint.net/index.php?/topic/8606-out-of-memory-to-loadedit-an-image-read-this-first/) Your image: 2048 x 2048 x 4 x (Layers + 2) = 50mb for a single layered image and add 16.7mb for each additional layer. Quote ebook: Mastering Paint.NET | resources: Plugin Index | Stereogram Tut | proud supporter of Codelab plugins: EER's Plugin Pack | Planetoid | StickMan | WhichSymbol+ | Dr Scott's Markup Renderer | CSV Filetype | dwarf horde plugins: Plugin Browser | ShapeMaker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sozo Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 Any chance you could host that file somewhere? I kinda want to see how my system handles it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick93 Posted February 28, 2014 Author Share Posted February 28, 2014 Any chance you could host that file somewhere? I kinda want to see how my system handles it. Sure : LAMB-GALLARDO-LP600-GT3-BODY.psd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midora Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 Your file contains more than 300 layers. Because of the internal data model of Paint.NET this sums to more than 5GB. Additionally it uses layer groups and masks. So my advice would be to use GIMP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ego Eram Reputo Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 300+ layers is an astonishing number. No wonder you're running out of memory. If you wish to persist with Paint.NET, you'll have to follow this advice (in red for emphasis) I think the problem is that the image is fairly large with many layers. Solution? Reduce the number of layers and/or more RAM. Quote ebook: Mastering Paint.NET | resources: Plugin Index | Stereogram Tut | proud supporter of Codelab plugins: EER's Plugin Pack | Planetoid | StickMan | WhichSymbol+ | Dr Scott's Markup Renderer | CSV Filetype | dwarf horde plugins: Plugin Browser | ShapeMaker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david.atwell Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 Wow, I think that might be a record number of layers. Sounds like your system is working like a champ to handle it even that well. :-) Quote The Doctor: There was a goblin, or a trickster, or a warrior... A nameless, terrible thing, soaked in the blood of a billion galaxies. The most feared being in all the cosmos. And nothing could stop it, or hold it, or reason with it. One day it would just drop out of the sky and tear down your world.Amy: But how did it end up in there?The Doctor: You know fairy tales. A good wizard tricked it.River Song: I hate good wizards in fairy tales; they always turn out to be him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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