Eagle Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 (edited) Hey guys, I'd like to know if there's a chance that PDN will offer an option to save JPEG-files with interlacing since PSP or PS can do this and IMHO Gimp can do it, too. Thanks in advance, Martin.. Edited March 20, 2017 by Eagle Request fulfilled. Quote John Fitzgerald Kennedy: „And do the other things, not because they’re easy, but because they’re hard.“ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usedHONDA Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 I've never used the interlacing feature on ps (and probably never will). Quote "The greatest thing about the Internet is that you can write anything you want and give it a false source." ~Ezra Pound twtr | dA | tmblr | yt | fb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellfire010 Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 ???? "Interlace is a technique of improving the picture quality of a video transmission without consuming any extra bandwidth. It was invented by RCA engineer Randall C. Ballard in the 1930s [1] [2]. It was ubiquitous in television until the 1970s, when the needs of computer monitors resulted in the reintroduction of progressive scan. While interlace can improve the resolution of still images, it can cause flicker and various kinds of distortion. Interlace is still used for most standard definition TVs, and the 1080i HDTV broadcast standard, but not for LCD, micromirror (DLP), or plasma displays, which are inherently progressive scan. These devices require some form of deinterlacing which can add to the cost of the set. Nevertheless as of 2006, progressive displays now dominate the HDTV market." -Wiki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle Posted January 13, 2007 Author Share Posted January 13, 2007 Hellfire, thanks for making this clear. I do need interlacing because of images being shown faster (less quality is ok, since it updates the quality level with every reload) on the web instead of loading images line by line.. - AFAIK, there are tools around which can even control *how many* times the procedure repeats itself till the final image is shown. Quote John Fitzgerald Kennedy: „And do the other things, not because they’re easy, but because they’re hard.“ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TinSoldier Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 Interlacing image files is not the same as interlacing video images. With image files it is mostly used as Eagle said. Instead of the image file appearing on a webpage from top to bottom it shows up kind of spread out and the viewer can get an idea of the whole picture before it is completely downloaded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellfire010 Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 "While interlace can improve the resolution of still images, it can cause flicker and various kinds of distortion." idk, I didn't know what it was either so I wiki'ed it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle Posted January 13, 2007 Author Share Posted January 13, 2007 So, will it be supported? If so, can I get an ETA (something like "within 3 months" or so)? Quote John Fitzgerald Kennedy: „And do the other things, not because they’re easy, but because they’re hard.“ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle Posted March 17, 2017 Author Share Posted March 17, 2017 @Rick Brewster, can this at least be put onto the roadmap for PDN? Quote John Fitzgerald Kennedy: „And do the other things, not because they’re easy, but because they’re hard.“ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoltBait Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 6 hours ago, Eagle said: @Rick Brewster, can this at least be put onto the roadmap for PDN? Since you are literally the only person in the world requesting this feature, I wouldn't hold your breath waiting for it to be implemented. Quote Click to play: Download: BoltBait's Plugin Pack | CodeLab | and how about a Computer Dominos Game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle Posted March 18, 2017 Author Share Posted March 18, 2017 Sure, I'm obviously the only person requesting it so far. But I find it hard to believe that I'm the only person in need of it. Interlacing is _the_ technique when it comes to loading and rendering images on small-bandwidth devices (e. g. mobile phones on lower networks with EDGE or something like that) whenever you want to prevent that "line by line"-loading misery. I didn't ask for an implementation, not even "right now, because you have to". I politely asked to put it onto the roadmap for "vANY". But alright, I get the point of yours. Quote John Fitzgerald Kennedy: „And do the other things, not because they’re easy, but because they’re hard.“ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ego Eram Reputo Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 The OptiPNG plugin supports interlacing. 1 Quote ebook: Mastering Paint.NET | resources: Plugin Index | Stereogram Tut | proud supporter of Codelab plugins: EER's Plugin Pack | Planetoid | StickMan | WhichSymbol+ | Dr Scott's Markup Renderer | CSV Filetype | dwarf horde plugins: Plugin Browser | ShapeMaker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle Posted March 18, 2017 Author Share Posted March 18, 2017 While I'm thankful for that hint, it seems that OptiPNG doesn't support interlacing of JPG files. Quote John Fitzgerald Kennedy: „And do the other things, not because they’re easy, but because they’re hard.“ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amaroq Dricaldari Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 Yeah. JPG was specified. Not sure why you want to save in JPG, though, there are better formats out there (depending on what type of graphics you are working with). If you are working with any sort of transparency, animation or just want to preserve quality... then JPG isn't for you. WebP, an opensource format, is similar to PNG except that it supports animation (to my knowledge), and has an option for lossy compression (though it is still a lot smarter than JPG, and thus will have less of a loss in quality). You can actually get a plug-in for Paint.NET to support WebP graphics. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle Posted March 18, 2017 Author Share Posted March 18, 2017 (edited) Unfortunately, it's less about what is technically possible, but instead more about what the customer requests.. :-/ But again, I'm thankful for the additional hint about WebP. I didn't even know it exists. Edited March 18, 2017 by Eagle Quote John Fitzgerald Kennedy: „And do the other things, not because they’re easy, but because they’re hard.“ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
null54 Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 What you are referring to as interlacing is known as a Progressive JPEG. My Optimized JPEG file type plugin supports saving progressive JPEG files, it uses jpegtran to optimize JPEG images. To use it you would select the Progressive radio button in the Encode Options. 2 Quote Plugin Pack | PSFilterPdn | Content Aware Fill | G'MIC | Paint Shop Pro Filetype | RAW Filetype | WebP Filetype The small increase in performance you get coding in C++ over C# is hardly enough to offset the headache of coding in the C++ language. ~BoltBait Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle Posted March 19, 2017 Author Share Posted March 19, 2017 Thanks, @null54 for the link. Indeed, I meant progressive JPG. But just like OptiPNG, downloading the files, copying them into [PDN-root]\FileTypes folder, (re-)starting PDN and saving a blank image as either JPG or PNG just brings up the normal PDN dialog, no enhanced features are shown. Are you guys willing to help me out one more time? Quote John Fitzgerald Kennedy: „And do the other things, not because they’re easy, but because they’re hard.“ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoltBait Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 When installed properly, it will show up under File > Save As... > Save as type: 2 Quote Click to play: Download: BoltBait's Plugin Pack | CodeLab | and how about a Computer Dominos Game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle Posted March 20, 2017 Author Share Posted March 20, 2017 Well, restarting PDN for a second time (just started it to double check I'm not blind) offered me those options. Thanks again, issues resolved! Quote John Fitzgerald Kennedy: „And do the other things, not because they’re easy, but because they’re hard.“ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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