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Creating a new company logo?

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Hey Greg, it is great to see you giving credit as Welshy said & I am very happy to read such a positive outcome. A wonderful sharing of collective experience.

It may be a bit late but a single pixel white or black outline on the lettering would give it that extra pop. Signwriters often do that with vinyl to make the image/letters stand out a bit more.

Good luck with the meeting. I am sure they will be impressed. Good colour choice too the blue since blue is the communication colour. :) Well done Greg & Pdnnoob for the mini tute. :)

Never too late Barbieq25.....almost midnight here!!!

Yes the experience has been really good.....last night I was panicking and really didn't have a clue!!!

I'll try the white outline.....what's the best way to apply the outline?

And yes thanks very much for the good wishes....appreciated.

regards

Greg

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Hi Greg, I am a bit late to this helpful topic ;) but thought I'd give a bit of advice. Like NN79 said it does need either feathering or AA assistant, to see why make a new layer and fill it with black and move it to the bottom of your layer stacks ( Its always a good idea to have 2 layers at the bottom one white and one black and switch between them to check your work especially when working with transparency )

Feather can be found by going to EFFECTS>OBJECT>FEATHER

and

AA assistant is a plug in which you will have to dl from here http://forums.getpai...showtopic=16643

Once DL unzip it and move the .dll files to your paint.net effects folder ( remember to close pdn first )

another idea is a drop shadow,there is a plug in to do this for you but its very easy without

1. Duplicate the layer with the e now go to ADJUSTMENTS>HUE/SATURATION and move the lightness slider all the way to the left ( this turns it black ) now go to EFFECTS>GAUSSIAN BLUR ( and blur it to about 4 px ) and then move this layer below the blue e layer. You can either keep it as it is or use the blue move arrow to place it in a better position. Also you may wish to change the opacity by double clicking on the layer in your layer windows box.

You could also do as Barbie suggests and outline the e but bear in mind both these options will show up the jaggies more so even more important to use feather or AA.

One last pointer try and think what size you wish your finished logo to be and start of with a canvas 4xbigger and then when finished give the whole image a gaussian blur at 2-3/px then resize by 25% this will eliminate most jaggies and give the image a very clean look.

Good luck :)

*Just copied your image into pdn to see what feathering,outline and drop shadow does to it and it seems as the the image is not on a transparent background :s anyone else have this problem ?

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Minners, probably it is not a .PNG & so transparency is not supported. I had the same issue.

Greg, I'd probably go with Drop Shadow set to a small value such as 1 for both width & blur.

Otherwise there are a couple of outline plugins.

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Hey Greg - just a note on printing at different resolutions.

You really need to read this:

The real trick is to work on a REALLY LARGE CANVAS. If your current logo is 600x600px then it will print horribly if you try to stretch it up to say 6" x 4".

So before you go any further - make sure your canvas is:

1. really, REALLY large.

and

2. A size that is a power of 2 multiple of the required finished size - i.e. 200%, 400%, 800% or 1600%.

I'm not kidding. When the client wants to print a banner six feet wide a source image 600px square isn't going to cut it.

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So true EER.

Unless signage won't be needed or they can get the signwriter to re-do a close re-work of what you have done. My experience has been the reverse of what you are doing but I must say that I really do like the logo a lot.

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Thanks for all the extra suggestions everyone....

I'm seeing the client this afternoon so I won't change anything right now....I still have to prepare a discussion document.

But I will definitely get back to you later on and let you know what happened...

Let me just say that you guys are a great bunch of people....helping a complete stranger with no expectations of return!!!

Bestb regards

Greg

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Hello everyone,

OK I met with the client and learnt an important lesson....

He had invited all his agents and a couple of associates to the meeting....ever tried to get a bunch of people to agree on anything artistic?

Every person had his or her 2cents to throw into the mix....

So needless to say I came away without a decision.

So back to the drawing board and this time I will meet with the client on his own.....for sure!

But all is not lost....I have the work done as a base to work from...

Again thanks for all the input....I will post updates and new images here...

Best regards

Greg

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We used to offer 3 options to clients.

1 very basic & boring

2 very over the top with a price tag to match

3 is the one you wanted the client to pick

Yes, Greg, an important lesson. You must be rather disappointed to come away without a decision.

Also, for what it is worth we used to get 60% up front for materials, terms were 7 days or we charge $20 per month late fee.

All artwork remained our property until fully paid for. That stopped them from taking our artwork to another company to undercut us.

Look forward to seeing more of your artwork & great ideas :)

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We used to offer 3 options to clients.

1 very basic & boring

2 very over the top with a price tag to match

3 is the one you wanted the client to pick

Yes, Greg, an important lesson. You must be rather disappointed to come away without a decision.

Also, for what it is worth we used to get 60% up front for materials, terms were 7 days or we charge $20 per month late fee.

All artwork remained our property until fully paid for. That stopped them from taking our artwork to another company to undercut us.

Look forward to seeing more of your artwork & great ideas :)

Hey Barbieq25,

Yes it's a bit disappointing....

But my main focus of business is actually web design and internet marketing....which is the bulk of the work for this client anyway....

I think I will have to sit down with him and get a much more focussed idea and run with that.

I agree with you about getting up front fees....my normal is to get 80% up front.

I'll certainly post any new ideas and concepts here once I get them...

Best regards

Greg

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