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I don't want to sound rude or anything: I'm just curious!

Why does it seem like the most active/'greatest' artists on these forums are adults?

It even seems like the minimum age is 16 or something.

Sometimes, I feel like the only teen/preteen (pretty much walking the line there) user on PDN Forums!

So, please answer me this question.

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This is just my observation, but it seems like a lot of the young adults on here who are especially talented typically started learning in their teens/preteens. It takes a lot of time and patience for most people to develop the skill set required to produce high quality creations.

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well I started with pdn when I was 18, now I am 23, so I guess I am not that old! lol and it did took me 3 years before I deared to try to actually paint, instead of just picture editing...

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I didn't start using pdn until I was in my late 20's (I'm 33 now) so I was very late entering the world of image editing/manipulating. When I was a teen PC's were not as powerful or user friendly as they are now (or affordable)

To quote Mike Ryan above "it seems like a lot of the young adults on here who are especially talented typically started learning in their teens/preteens."

This is very true, most people of my age never gave much though or interest in computers back then and if we did it was most likely in a working environment.

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If we separate the active from the great you will get a different picture entirely.

Many young ones like to produce smaller images & are not too keen on spending huge amounts of time on an image. This could also be due to the limitations of their computer & time constraints with school & other activities. So Mike Ryan's comment is very relevant.

Aislin, too said that it takes a lot of time, patience & years of practice to get really good at producing "great" art. There are some folk who are just naturally very good at it with a minimum of effort.

As for being active, some are more active than others. For example, I have commented a fair bit in threads but a quick look at my gallery will tell you that I have not produced very much at all in the last 3 months.

True, there is some correlation between age & quality of the images but there are other factors too, such a nitenurse pointed out.

Many of us "oldies" have taken young ones under our wing as it were & they have blossomed because they listened but they also taught us a thing or two.

I like your question, Zeri. Think about also how we came to install Paint.NET in the first place?

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I've been around here (mainly lurking) since 2008 and I'm 17 now. I agree about people starting in their teens, however I think that a lot of us (teens that is) might get bored with it and move to something else during our time here and not hone our skills.

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Why does it seem like the most active/'greatest' artists on these forums are adults?

I don't know about the "active/greatest" correlation, but as far as adults are concerned, it could just be that in years past we would spend our time in the park wasting away the hours playing chess, and now we've moved to wasting away our time doing things in Paint.net.

Just kidding (I don't think we're quite in that category yet).

But seriously, years ago I took the Dale Carnegie course in Human Relations and Public Speaking. One of the things that was pointed out about speaking in public is "know your subject". In laymen's terms, know what you're talking about. Think about that. Are you into sports? Is baseball your favorite sport? Do you have conversations w/others on the subject quoting stats and opinions, etc.? When we learn and know more about a subject, it's easier to talk about that subject. Learning is ongoing and doing gives us experience. We succeed and fail by our experience and as a result, we learn some more increasing our knowledge on a subject.

So it's relatively easy to understand that people who have learned a thing or two about any given subject (or maybe an aspect of the subject) can have something to say on the issue. And the opposite certainly holds true: if you don't have a lot of knowledge on the subject, you may tend to be hesitant or reluctant to speak due to being uncertain about your own response.

So participation might have a direct relation to one's knowledge, but I don't agree that necessarily the active are necessarily also the "greatest". Remember, "beauty is in the eye of the beholder". It's an opinion, and even some of us are our own worst critics - we may not necessarily see our effort as good as others perceive it.

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I think forum users are like fashions - they come and go. At the moment there does seem like a high proportion of 'fogeys' here but that will change when more younger members join and decide to stick around.

Age is just a number. Wanting to learn and persevering are the important factors. I've seen people lap up advice given by others but also seen people dis-regard it. It's all human nature. Some stick around and others move on for one reason or another ... that's life. Younger people discover alcohol and the opposite/same sex, there's school/ college ... some start out with PDN and move onto Photoshop. Heat Stroke a prime example of a phenomenal young artist who did just that

I can't speak for all the older members but I've got a lot of T-Shirts, done the women and getting wrecked thing ... so now I like to put on my cardigan and slippers, put my feet up and discover the secrets and wonders that PDN gives up.

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I started I think back in 2007 when I graduated college, so I was around 21 or 22 (I'm 27 now). I know that our youngest user on here was Rubrica, but maybe not any more. Besides, I'm at my computer always since I illustrate on the computer most of the time and other times checking my e-mail, going on the PDN forums. And also, I'll let you on a little secret. Just because we're aging, doesn't mean we're getting older soul-wise. We will always be young at heart.

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Thanks for your answers.

I used the coralation 'most active/greatest' to be read like this: The most active OR the 'greatest', the last being opinionated, which is why I put those marks around it.

By most active, I mean relevant to these forums. Not just your gallery work.

I know you'll always be young at heart...

... but I get a little creeped out when you start talking about bringing out the beer. XD

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... and so, from what it looks like...

I'm the youngest member on the forums. 0.0

(New goal: get the paint.NET title 'Everyone's Little Brother'! :lol: )

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... and so, from what it looks like...

I'm the youngest member on the forums. 0.0

(New goal: get the paint.NET title 'Everyone's Little Brother'! :lol: )

Good on you Zeri!

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I wouldn't necessarily say it's about age, but rather noob vs. experienced.

From my observations (I'm sure not everyone will completely agree):

Noob comes along, learns a few random cool effects. Next, Noob thinks: Random Cool Effect + Random Cool Effect + Random Cool Effect = elite skilled work of art! But, in reality, a lot of the time it looks horrible. (Disclaimer: I'm defiantly not saying all work done by noobs is bad; I've seen good stuff too.)

This is true for other things as well. e.g. About 10 years ago, my friend and I were learning how to make websites. One day we discovered a javascript script repository. At first we thought, hey, cool scripts! This was followed by us adding our favorite ones to our site. About a week later, I realized that the random cool scripts were irrelevant, gimmicky, and strait up annoying. It's just part of the noob learning curve I guess.

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Well, I was 9 when I joined the forums, and I'm 14 at the moment, if that's of interest to you. :) Then again, I'm not exactly the greatest artist (mostly because I haven't been able to post any work in a long time).

Edit: Also worth noting, I always have been and still am as annoying and childish as one might expect.

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Why does it seem like the most active/'greatest' artists on these forums are adults?
What!? I'm offended D:

Just kidding :P I am pretty active (though certainly not the greatest) and I started at about the same time and age as Sfifer...

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I'm 18 now and I was 14 when I first started using Paint.NET. I'm not that active because I mainly use Paint.NET for photo editing, colour correction et cetera these days, but I use to do sigs and everything with it when I was younger.

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It's so weird to think that, when I first spoke with you, Kemaru, you were the same age as I am now - and you've grown to be what appears to be a delightful, polite, successful young man, from the few things you've ever let on about your life. It's inspiring, to say the very least.

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That was one of the nicest things anyone has ever said to me, Rubrica. Thank you very much. :) If my presence on this forum has inspired a great young mind such as yourself then I'm glad I have been here!

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I think you're both stars. :star: :star:

Rubrica ... you're in no way childish or annoying. In fact I've learned a few things from your posts ( even had to google a few words before now ...) and your pixel art is second to none.

Kemaru ... got to agree with all Rubrica says. Youth get a bad press, but praise is never voiced as loudly.

Plus you've got an awesome taste in music ... and I miss those sigs

PDNNoob ... you're cool too. A wise head on young shoulders

It's scary to think you guys are approaching the best years of your lives ...

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I don't want to sound rude or anything: I'm just curious!

Why does it seem like the most active/'greatest' artists on these forums are adults?

It even seems like the minimum age is 16 or something.

Sometimes, I feel like the only teen/preteen (pretty much walking the line there) user on PDN Forums!

So, please answer me this question.

*An Age Question

:P

I'm fourteen (I joined when I was thirteen, however)

It seems that way, most likely, because there are fewer of us. Most teens and younger children tend to lean on computer-generated music as their preferred type of "art". Thinning out the crowd more, most who do like it don't care to make it. Nice to see you, though. Seems like your very good.

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