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i have been using sketchup now for about a year but as you know, the models are never really complete without a background in them. there are ways right in sketchup to add a backgroung but they cant be rendered because the background disappears and leaves only the rendered model. i downloaded gimp to see if i could add a background there but the instructions are so vague that there's just no way i can understand what they are talking about. i know nothing about transparent backgrounds or what it has to do with adding a simple jpg photo background to my model. the more you people try to explain in your ''image editor terms'', the farther away from understanding i get. i know for a fact that there are hundreds of people out there who feel exactly what i'm feeling but they don't want to appear to be idiots so they clam up and so then these questions are never asked and these statements are never made and consequently, you people just on talking in some other vague language that very few beginners can possibly relate to. i just want a simple instructive path as to how to bring a picture to the clipboard and then bring a background picture into that first picture, blend them togeather and have a finished scene. is that a lot to ask? if you want people to use your product, then find a way to speak to them so that they can understand what the hell you're talking about. i do realize that there are those people out there who fully ''get it''...but for every one of that do, there are 50 more that do not. stoneplanet777

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Now I know why I deleted sketch-up ... it's all PDN's fault I didn't get it.

There may be more intelligient answers but can't you save your model as a .png, open it in PDN, then Layers >>> Import From File your desired background

...Sorry about that...one of those days. here's what i've been doing; I've been building the models in sketchup...rendering them in podium v2 with a transparent png setting...and then i know to click on file and then open and then bring the file over to PDN. After that I have been bringing the background picture to PDN the same way but then i don't understand how to bring them together into one scene. What I really need is a step by step lesson of exactly what to do so that I can do it and thenIknow that once I've actually done it, it will in turn enlighten me to many other things that this program has to offer. Whatever it is that I'm doing wrong which is probably everything, it needs to be corrected now while I still have hair. lol And by the way...if you really did delete sketchup, I don't think it was because you didn't get it. In my case, though, that was actually true...I have only owned a computer for about a year and a half and I found sketchup about 10 months ago. It made me so crazy that I uninstalled it 7 times and kept bringing it back because I just couldn't give up. All I could think about was all it would eventually do for my art projects if I could just figure it out. Now there is THIS and I need it for that same reason.Anything can be learned and I would eventually figure it out with or without help but I'd much rather it be now that 10 months from now. THANKS for your reply.

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I tried sketch up for almost two days, It blew my brains out :/ too complex and a resource eater too :lol:

YES...SKETCHUP IS COMPLICATED BUT I HAD NOWHERE NEAR THE TROUBLE WITH THAT AS MUCH AS I'M HAVING WITH THIS. I'M TRYING TO PUT BACKGROUNDS IN MY LANDSCAPE MODELS BUT CAN'T GET AN ACCURATE TUTORIAL OF WHAT I'M SUPPOSE TO DO TO ACCOMPLISH THE TASK. I'VE HAD 3 REPLIES TO MY POSTS AND ALL OF THEM WERE SO VAGUE THAT I COULDN'T EVEN BEGIN TO MAKE THEM WORK. I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY PEOPLE CAN'T JUST TELL SOMEONE ALL OF THE STEPS TO DO A THING. TO THEM IT'S AN EASY THING TO DO BUT TO ME IT'S COMPLEX AS HELL...THIS IS THE FIRST THING I'VE TRIED TO DO WITHIN THIS PROGRAM AND I'VE BEEN TRYING FOR 6 DAYS WITHOUT ANY SUCCESS. I THINK I'VE CLICKED ON EVERY SINGLE BUTTON TRYING TO FIND THE WAY BUT NOTHING I'VE DONE WORKS. :(

STONEPLANET777

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YES...SKETCHUP IS COMPLICATED BUT I HAD NOWHERE NEAR THE TROUBLE WITH THAT AS MUCH AS I'M HAVING WITH THIS. I'M TRYING TO PUT BACKGROUNDS IN MY LANDSCAPE MODELS BUT CAN'T GET AN ACCURATE TUTORIAL OF WHAT I'M SUPPOSE TO DO TO ACCOMPLISH THE TASK. I'VE HAD 3 REPLIES TO MY POSTS AND ALL OF THEM WERE SO VAGUE THAT I COULDN'T EVEN BEGIN TO MAKE THEM WORK. I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY PEOPLE CAN'T JUST TELL SOMEONE ALL OF THE STEPS TO DO A THING. TO THEM IT'S AN EASY THING TO DO BUT TO ME IT'S COMPLEX AS HELL...THIS IS THE FIRST THING I'VE TRIED TO DO WITHIN THIS PROGRAM AND I'VE BEEN TRYING FOR 6 DAYS WITHOUT ANY SUCCESS. I THINK I'VE CLICKED ON EVERY SINGLE BUTTON TRYING TO FIND THE WAY BUT NOTHING I'VE DONE WORKS. :(

STONEPLANET777

Hey, shouting, you know?

Anyway, having used SketchUp before, I once ran into a similar problem like you, but never gave it a try. This link might be your best bet to get help. Also, since you are asking a question that's largely related to SketchUp, I strongly recommend signing up at SketchUcation forums. I am sure there has been users with similar problems you ran into.

Good luck.

Officially retired from this forum. Have a nice day.

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Alright, sorry about that. looks like everyone is busy (including me) during these holidays.

So now you have a 3D object rendered and exported as an PNG image file, and you like to imported in PDN to add a background to it, right?

Here I have my render from Google Sketchup and a landscape background to add to my render:

gazebo.png

idylwild.jpg

- Open both images in PDN

- Check the sizes of both images, and Resize the render image, if it needs, to make sure it fits in the background image: Image>Resize

- Now Select all the render image, and copy it: Edit>Select All then Edit>Copy

- Now switch to the background image, and paste the render on it as a new layer: Edit>Paste in to New layer

To get something like this:

image01.jpg

- With Move selected pixels tool :MoveTool: , move the render around to the proper location, and size it down if it is too big " to size it down, click and hold any corners knobs and move it inward", then add some drop shadow and adjust the color to match the environment,

to get something like this.

result1.jpg

I hope this answers your question.

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THANK YOU!!! Yes, I think this is what will work and I really appreciate the pictures and how you went through it step by step...it feels complete. I really didn't know what to expect from this program as far as manipulating a forground or a background because I have never worked in an image editor program before this and I didn't know what would be possible. I downloaded a trial version of IRENDER NXT a few months ago and I don't know if you're familiar with that rendering program but there is a system inside of it that allows you to add forground and back ground almost seamlessly. It can be adjusted in every way and it's all done right inside of sketchup. You just grab the jpg photo or picture from your files and it automatically falls in back of your model and then you adjust the perspective, size or whatever. After that you render all of it together and it's done. There's no transparancy this or that...it's just simple and clean. However, having said all of that, I do realize that PDN has many other cool functions and I'm looking forward to learning as much of it as I can. Again...thanks for your help with my small problem. STONEPLANET777

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Hey, shouting, you know?

Anyway, having used SketchUp before, I once ran into a similar problem like you, but never gave it a try. This link might be your best bet to get help. Also, since you are asking a question that's largely related to SketchUp, I strongly recommend signing up at SketchUcation forums. I am sure there has been users with similar problems you ran into.

Good luck.

SketchUcation.....been there, done that. It's cool and I do use it but PDN has its own little set of rules and instructions so I'm more likely to find the answers that I need right here if the questions have anything to do with PAINT NET. The thing is...I'm working with three different programs right now...sketchup, podium v2 and pdn. Each of these programs have their own little quirks and each one has to be compatable with the others for certain tasks. Forgive the shouting, if you will. There is no luck; there is learning,knowing, doing and eventually....perfection. STONEPLANET777

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THANK YOU!!! Yes, I think this is what will work and I really appreciate the pictures and how you went through it step by step...it feels complete. I really didn't know what to expect from this program as far as manipulating a forground or a background because I have never worked in an image editor program before this and I didn't know what would be possible. I downloaded a trial version of IRENDER NXT a few months ago and I don't know if you're familiar with that rendering program but there is a system inside of it that allows you to add forground and back ground almost seamlessly. It can be adjusted in every way and it's all done right inside of sketchup. You just grab the jpg photo or picture from your files and it automatically falls in back of your model and then you adjust the perspective, size or whatever. After that you render all of it together and it's done. There's no transparancy this or that...it's just simple and clean. However, having said all of that, I do realize that PDN has many other cool functions and I'm looking forward to learning as much of it as I can. Again...thanks for your help with my small problem. STONEPLANET777

YELLOWMAN.....I tried this and it works great; your instructions were right on the mark and I am now trying to ajust the color in my model to match the colors in the background a little better. This may prove to be a bit of a challenge also but well worth the battle. Thanks for your help and I'm sorry to have been so lean on the understanding part but I guess it takes a little more for some of us to get it...anyway, it's a start. STONEPLANET777

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YELLOWMAN.....I tried this and it works great; your instructions were right on the mark and I am now trying to ajust the color in my model to match the colors in the background a little better. This may prove to be a bit of a challenge also but well worth the battle. Thanks for your help and I'm sorry to have been so lean on the understanding part but I guess it takes a little more for some of us to get it...anyway, it's a start. STONEPLANET777

Now I'm having another problem; I saved the picture I made in what I thought was my ''pictures'' but then when I go there to open it an look at it, it comes up in PDN. How do I remove it from PDN and still keep the picture?

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Now I'm having another problem; I saved the picture I made in what I thought was my ''pictures'' but then when I go there to open it an look at it, it comes up in PDN. How do I remove it from PDN and still keep the picture?

WOOPS...never mind, man...I found out what I did wrong and I learned how to save the project...isn't perfect but it's a start.STONEPLANET777

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