can a watermark be able to shrink when the image is enlarged?

[tay0]

hi forum members

can a watermark stay the same size even when an image size is altered? say if its text and it gets too big when i enlarge the image how do i shrink the watermark ? when it is already merged and flattened as one picture without a separate layer.

such as a php or java script to keep the watermark distinct in a way even in a flattened pic or to select the watermark to erase it and re-apply it in the right font size back onto the resized pic?

[Ego Eram Reputo]

Once you flatten the layers the final result is one layer. Enlarge that and you enlarge everything on that layer. PHP or java is not going to help.

The trick here is to save the image as a *.PDN file before you flatten and then use Save As... to save it in your final file format.

The idea is that you can reopen the PDN image and the layer structure will be preserved. Allowing you to resize the image layer independently of the watermark layer.

[tay0]

Once you flatten the layers the final result is one layer. Enlarge that and you enlarge everything on that layer. PHP or java is not going to help.

The trick here is to save the image as a *.PDN file before you flatten and then use Save As... to save it in your final file format.

The idea is that you can reopen the PDN image and the layer structure will be preserved. Allowing you to resize the image layer independently of the watermark layer.

hey thanks a lot that explains the way to go about it really well and sounds like the best idea.

it will save a lot of retyping when photo sizes are to be changed.

as you say an end user of a watermarked jpeg whom enlarges it, is stuck with a stretched watermark

still i'd easily provide a PDN copy along with its jpg, to give the same control to people who are using a pic of mine.

i hope to have pics small sizes for free and full size for sale

or would that be disallowed if i am selling the photos?

i haven't tried photoshop and i think it costs too much.

open-source sounds more or less only for students and isn't it a saleable art work if they use an open source ware like this?

thanks again for your interest

[W@@dy]

Well if you're selling it I don't think I'd suggest giving out the PDN file as well, unless you're okay with people altering you're work.

You're planning on selling different sized photos?

Save the original file in .pdn file format.

Copy the watermark you're using, and save it in a completely separate .pdn file.

Then resize the photo for each given size (you ALWAYS want to resize down, never enlarge).

Copy the watermark from the other file, and place it on top of each of the newly resized photos.

I'd especially suggest this if you're using 1 watermark for all of your photos. It would be best to have your watermark in it's own file since it will be used in a large array of images.

[tay0]

hey thanks a lot that explains the way to go about it really well and sounds like the best idea.

it will save a lot of retyping when photo sizes are to be changed.

as you say an end user of a watermarked jpeg whom enlarges it, is stuck with a stretched watermark

still i'd easily provide a PDN copy along with its jpg, to give the same control to people who are using a pic of mine.

i hope to have pics small sizes for free and full size for sale

or would that be disallowed if i am selling the photos?

i haven't tried photoshop and i think it costs too much.

open-source sounds more or less only for students and isn't it a saleable art work if they use an open source ware like this?

thanks again for your interest

now i tried your way works great and it can stretch or shrink the watermark layer to change the look as well.

my w/m text layer gets compressed when you move the handle up the sides.

then i move the text layer back down to put the watermark at the corner of the photo.

as a bonus it is a way to widen my text without text-height doubling in a large copy.

how is it able to change the colour of the text in the saved watermark layer?

when i import the watermark layer onto a pic the colour wheel no longer seems to affect it

except to fill the layer but seems it won't alter merely the colour of the watermark text that i have on the same transparent layer

so i am wondering is it no longer text now its been saved as an image? does it take the magic wand to select text on a layer?

i hope to select just the layer that has saved text on it and change the colour of that text but not re-colour the entire transparent layer.

thanks for your interest in my questions i'm just starting out

[W@@dy]

Yes, once you apply a text it becomes a part of the image and you can no longer edit the text.

To change the color, you could use the recolor tool, or re-type the text.