WhipSmart Posted November 19, 2006 Share Posted November 19, 2006 I've been using Paint.NET for about 20min and I have a problem. I looked thru the tutorials and such but I guess my issue is so simple that everyone else was able to figure it out on their own but me. When adding a layer that is much larger than the background, how do you resize the new layer so that you can see all of it over the background layer..? Resize doesn't seem to work. All it does is give me a little section of the new layer or make the background so small that it becomes useless. I am addled when it comes to photo-manip software. I don't have money for PS, GIMP just made me mad and now I can't seem to figure out what should be the easiest things about Paint.NET. I'm sure I'll be asking a lot of questions here. Thanks..! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadJik Posted November 19, 2006 Share Posted November 19, 2006 Hi, When you add a new layer you can't resize it. It has the image size. When you copy/paste external picture that is larger than the actual image size, you have the question to enlarge or keep the size. If you say Yes:enlarge then the image (all the layer) will have the size of the pasted picture. Else No:keep size then you could move the pasted picture to place a part of it to the image area AND/OR resize the pasted picture. (to resize drag the circle at the corner of the selection) Tuts are one thing. But you also have general description of the tools in the help file of PDN. :wink: I hope been clear enough to help... Quote My DeviantArt | My Pictorium | My Plugins | Donate via Paypal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickman Posted November 19, 2006 Share Posted November 19, 2006 ?! I'm not really understanding your question... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif Posted November 19, 2006 Share Posted November 19, 2006 ?! I'm not really understanding your question... Nether do I. But maybe you can use the selection tool to select the size you want. And then crop to selection. Quote My DA: http://leif-j.deviantart.com/ -------------- Some people seek justice so persistent, that they will do great injustice themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadJik Posted November 19, 2006 Share Posted November 19, 2006 ?! I'm not really understanding your question... Nether do I. But maybe you can use the selection tool to select the size you want. And then crop to selection. V2.72 it does work but it is a good idea ! Quote My DeviantArt | My Pictorium | My Plugins | Donate via Paypal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhipSmart Posted November 19, 2006 Author Share Posted November 19, 2006 I'm not really understanding your question... My background image is 400X600. The image I want to overlay is 1900x900. When I add the layer, it asks me if I want to resize the canvas. If I click yes, the canvas becomes 1900X900 and the background image stays 400X600 so it becomes very small. If I do not resize the canvas, the canvas stays 400X600 and the overlay stays 1900X900 and all I get is a small piece of the overlay. And I can't seem to resize the overlay or move it at all. does that make sense..? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickman Posted November 19, 2006 Share Posted November 19, 2006 you can resize each image separately and then put them together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhipSmart Posted November 19, 2006 Author Share Posted November 19, 2006 (to resize drag the circle at the corner of the selection) After pasting the new layer and all I have is one small corner, I see the circle at the corner and drag it to resize like I do with any other program. Except the entire image somehow didn't get pasted into the new layer. The new image is only a portion of the original image. Trying to resize it only reveals that the entire image didn't get pasted. This is very difficult to explain. I'll try to put up some screenshots... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadJik Posted November 19, 2006 Share Posted November 19, 2006 yes because you image is too small but you could drag the circle down right and move the selection up left till you image is in the area... it is not easy in this way. I suggest you to open first you picture, resize it before you copy/paste it ! Quote My DeviantArt | My Pictorium | My Plugins | Donate via Paypal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhipSmart Posted November 19, 2006 Author Share Posted November 19, 2006 you can resize each image separately and then put them together. That defeats the purpose of having a photo manipulator in the first place. What I'm trying to do is get a middle section of the new layer over the background. If I just open the new image, the background image goes away. If I open it as a layer so I can make changes to it, I either get only a small portion of the new layer or I make the background too small. Is this making sense..? If all I wanted to do was resize the image I could use Irfanview. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhipSmart Posted November 19, 2006 Author Share Posted November 19, 2006 I suggest you to open first you picture, resize it before you copy/paste it ! But I want the image to stay large. I want a certain part of the large image over the background. But if I resize the canvas, the background becomes too small. If I resize the new layer all I get is a small portion of one corner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadJik Posted November 19, 2006 Share Posted November 19, 2006 That defeats the purpose of having a photo manipulator in the first place. If you are talking about photo quality then you aren't working the good way: you should try to work with the largest picture instead downsizing it. You will be much more fine in your manipulation. And when finished you could make copies resized to a smaller size. Quote My DeviantArt | My Pictorium | My Plugins | Donate via Paypal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadJik Posted November 19, 2006 Share Posted November 19, 2006 ===> try to zoom out 50% or 25% then you will see all the corner of your pasted pict. Drag it to move it where you want.... Quote My DeviantArt | My Pictorium | My Plugins | Donate via Paypal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhipSmart Posted November 19, 2006 Author Share Posted November 19, 2006 try to zoom out 50% or 25% then you will see all the corner of your pasted pict. Drag it to move it where you want.... That doesn't help.. somehow when I am adding the new layer, all that is getting added is a section of the new layer that is the size of the background... If I zoom out the section of the new layer just gets smaller along with everything else. When I move it, all that moves is a small square because that is all there is. The entire image isn't making it onto the new layer for some reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadJik Posted November 19, 2006 Share Posted November 19, 2006 Keyboard Z and Mouse right click to zoom out the drawing area (not the image)! Then M and drag to place correctly the picture... Could you post the picture to let us see the problem? Quote My DeviantArt | My Pictorium | My Plugins | Donate via Paypal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhipSmart Posted November 19, 2006 Author Share Posted November 19, 2006 Here's my background image - the first layer. Then I try to add a new, much larger image. It asks me if I want to expand the canvas. This is what happens when I click 'no'. It won't let me move or resize this image. If I click 'yes' to resize the canvas, my background becomes this: And it won't let me move or resize it. I'm completely stuck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickman Posted November 19, 2006 Share Posted November 19, 2006 If you resize each layer separately, that won't happen... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Picc84 Posted November 19, 2006 Share Posted November 19, 2006 I did not know you can resize your layers sepreatly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhipSmart Posted November 19, 2006 Author Share Posted November 19, 2006 If you resize each layer separately, that won't happen... At this point, I don't even care about resizing the larger image. I can do that separately and that's fine. But I want to use a section of the un-resized larger image. But I can't move the image at all. That's a problem.[/i] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Posted November 19, 2006 Share Posted November 19, 2006 But I can't move the image at all You don't use the good tool. Try Move Selected Pixels (blue arrow) instead of Move Selection (white arrow) to move or resize a selection's content. And use the included Help. Quote No. Way. I've just seen Bob. And... *poof!*—just like that—he disappears into the mist again. ~Helio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhipSmart Posted November 19, 2006 Author Share Posted November 19, 2006 The Move Pixels tool doesn't help either... When I use that, this happens: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barkbark00 Posted November 20, 2006 Share Posted November 20, 2006 What you want to do is copy the larger image into a new layer...not import to new layer. Open the larger image in Paint.Net. hit CTRL+A to select the entire canvas and the hit CTRL+C to copy the larger image. then open your smaller image in Paint.NET and paste the larger image on to a new layer. now you should be able to use the "Move Selected Pixels" tool to move the larger image around. Quote  Take responsibility for your own intelligence. 😉 -Rick Brewster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhipSmart Posted November 20, 2006 Author Share Posted November 20, 2006 Bingo..! That did the trick.. Danke mucho... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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