BodyofLight Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 hi. was just curious, is there a way to skew a circle for isometric pixelart. mspaint can do this and its quite useful. was wondering if .net can do it too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BodyofLight Posted June 3, 2011 Author Share Posted June 3, 2011 (edited) mspaint has has had a simple skew by angle since it was released. im getting frustrated and i just downloaded this program. is there a skew by angle plugin? something? i dont mean to sound like a jerk but this is just sad. not to mention that many post say o replies. so im guessing this isnt a very active forum. Edited June 3, 2011 by BodyofLight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadJik Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 Oblique plugin should help you, but you'll have to correct some pixels by hand... Oblique Effect Plugin http://forums.getpaint.net/index.php?showtopic=2524 Quote My DeviantArt | My Pictorium | My Plugins | Donate via Paypal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BodyofLight Posted June 3, 2011 Author Share Posted June 3, 2011 (edited) Oblique plugin should help you, but you'll have to correct some pixels by hand... Oblique Effect Plugin http://forums.getpai...?showtopic=2524 but why in pixels? its a nice plug, i wish it used degrees. would be much better for pixel art Edited June 3, 2011 by BodyofLight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pyrochild Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 but why in pixels? its a nice plug, i wish it used degrees. would be much better for pixel art You make no sense. Quote ambigram signature by Kemaru [i write plugins and stuff] If you like a post, upvote it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BodyofLight Posted June 3, 2011 Author Share Posted June 3, 2011 (edited) You make no sense. really? i should explain myself better its true that neaither graphics gale/ promotion/grafx2 (most bitmap/raster editors) dont allow skewing by angle. i already own photoshop elements 7. i was wrong to think that there might be an easier way. adobe limits photoshop elements in that they dont allow skewing by angle nooo, thats found in there big expensive package. im tired of manualy adjusting my circles and wanted to try paint .net. i thinks its quite a powerful and fun program to use. however as long as theres no skew/shear by angle... well, i dunno what to say, i cant really fault it cause most other raster editors dont skew/shear by degrees. so what am i gonna complain about? its free, its powerful, its fun, it has the same limitations to most other free/cheap programs, that cant/or wont allow skewing/shearing. by degree and i guess im just gonnna have to put up with that. (on a lighter note) i can definitely see.net replacing my photoshop elements 7/gimp (insert raster/bitmap editor here) Edited June 3, 2011 by BodyofLight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pdnnoob Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 (edited) ...so try welshblue's suggestion and go to the "layer" menu and click on "Rotate/zoom." Voilà ! Skewing by angle Edited June 3, 2011 by pdnnoob Quote No, Paint.NET is not spyware...but, installing it is an IQ test. ~BoltBait Blend modes are like the filling in your sandwich. It's the filling that can change your experience of the sandwich. ~Ego Eram Reputo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BodyofLight Posted June 5, 2011 Author Share Posted June 5, 2011 (edited) ...so try welshblue's suggestion and go to the "layer" menu and click on "Rotate/zoom." Voilà ! Skewing by angle is there a way to rotate/zoom so the settings precisely skew the circle at 30 degrees? btw, i read the rules, seems my frustration got the best me. im guessing its pretty common for peoples frustration to come out in there posts. especially with newbies. im sorry. heres a virtual slice of pizza because everybody loves pizza. bol Edited June 5, 2011 by BodyofLight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mountnman Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 (edited) top of PDN pick the LAYER tab, then choose the rotate/zoom or press Ctrl-Shift-Z you will have to put your circle on its own layer I think, with a little more exploring, that you will find PDN more powerful than you ever dreamed Edited June 5, 2011 by mountnman Quote SARCASM- Just one of the many services I offer free to the public. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BodyofLight Posted June 5, 2011 Author Share Posted June 5, 2011 (edited) top of PDN pick the LAYER tab, then choose the rotate/zoom or press Ctrl-Shift-Z you will have to put your circle on its own layer I think, with a little more exploring, that you will find PDN more powerful than you ever dreamed i have the circle drawn on a new layer, i choose rotate/zoom, the problem is, i select the box titled angle' i set it to 30 degrees, and click ok. but it didn't do anything, so, i select, angle/twist angle/twist radius, and set them all to 30 degrees, click ok, that also has no effect on the circle. so, i 'manually' edit the angle/twist/radius, and doing so, i do get a skewed circle. what i don't understand is, if there is a way to set precise coordinates in the a/t/r/ boxes to create a precise isometric 30 degree circle?, must skewing be done manually, and adjusted by hand/eye? i would have no problem with that if it does need to be done manually and would be happy just for the rotate and zoom feature, but at this point, if theirs a way to precisely skew a shape into isometric view, it eludes me.its just matter of feeling like im doing something wrong. i admit, im i just started learning isometric pixel art last month so if my questions seem stupid, you know why Edited June 5, 2011 by BodyofLight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mountnman Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 (edited) before i start making guesses as to what you having trouble with-- will you post o picture of what youre trying to achieve? i opened pdn and was able to skew the circle quite easily- so i amn not sure the deal the angle setting just rotates the picture on the center point the twist radius and the twist angle skew it-- i have found that the twist angle will do nothing to a circle on its own, you must use both twist radius and twist angel to get the effect.. after entering the values (30.00) you wont see any changes to your picture unless you hit enter, the OK button, or click on another area in the rotate/zoom window(you dont have to change the new value, just click on it once you have the skew where you need it, every time you open rotate/zoom during that session of PDN it will have those same values preloaded Edited June 6, 2011 by mountnman Quote SARCASM- Just one of the many services I offer free to the public. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pdnnoob Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 Set twist angle to 90 and twist radius to 30. That should get you the isometric view you are looking for. However, if you are doing pixel art, you should try to draw it yourself because rotate/zoom will try to anti-alias your circle for you, as will all the plugins you try to use. It may be difficult to achieve at first, but after a little practice (it's quite easy actually), you'll get the hang of it. If needed, first draw a square with the isometric 30 degree angle, then round the corners off to make an elipse-type shape. Quote No, Paint.NET is not spyware...but, installing it is an IQ test. ~BoltBait Blend modes are like the filling in your sandwich. It's the filling that can change your experience of the sandwich. ~Ego Eram Reputo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadJik Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 Isometric wiki Based on this article, here is what I could get closest to iso distortion: Quote My DeviantArt | My Pictorium | My Plugins | Donate via Paypal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pdnnoob Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 http://lts.cr/fCh <--pdn file of below image Just an example of what you would do for a pixel art skewed circle. Draw your isometric square, then draw a skewed circle on top and delete the guide square if you wish. Quote No, Paint.NET is not spyware...but, installing it is an IQ test. ~BoltBait Blend modes are like the filling in your sandwich. It's the filling that can change your experience of the sandwich. ~Ego Eram Reputo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BodyofLight Posted June 6, 2011 Author Share Posted June 6, 2011 i understand now i just thought that i was missing something. hence why i got frustrated. so, i have to do it manually due to aa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pdnnoob Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 Just as a side note, it is very difficult/impossible to get a perfect 30 degree isometric view in pixel art. In my picture, I used simple 2:1 ratios of x:y shift which comes out to around 26.6 degrees. Also, it helps to have drawn ellipses on graph paper in a math class. Quote No, Paint.NET is not spyware...but, installing it is an IQ test. ~BoltBait Blend modes are like the filling in your sandwich. It's the filling that can change your experience of the sandwich. ~Ego Eram Reputo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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