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I am sorry rick but I do not like the current MDI overflow solution. I know I have probably been pretty annoying lately by picking at everything, so smite me with your admin powers of doom if you must, but here are things I think should be changed.

-clicking the overflow button a second time does not close the list. If you are working with a zoomed in image and then click the overflow button, many people would have the reaction to click on the canvas to get rid of it, which could be annoying depending on your selected tool.

-if you have too many images open and you click the down arrow then the list xtends to cover that button (which may confuse people when they try to close the list again).

-the scrolling buttons are over that transparent gradiant which can make it look like part of the image.

To be honest I think you need a proper scroll bar, and none of these drop down lists. Also I think a right click menu on all the thumbnails of the images would be really useful, giving the user options for closing files, copying them, duplicating them etc etc...

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First off, let's jump back and set the expection of attitude straight: Your comments, feedback, suggestions, and bugs help the project. Even if you dislike or disagree with stuff. Your feedback is critical to ensuring that Paint.NET v3.0 is a high quality release that will continue to leave a favorable impression.

So please don't start off on the defense by saying things like "sorry rick but ..." or "I know I have probably been pretty annoying lately." Just say what you need to say, although of course be objective, polite, and intelligent. In return I'll be objective and intelligent, hopefully polite (if I just woke up then you're out of luck, sorry! :twisted:)

Also, please do remember to tell me what you like about v3.0's changes and features :) And why.

Now, to respond:

clicking the overflow button a second time does not close the list. If you are working with a zoomed in image and then click the overflow button, many people would have the reaction to click on the canvas to get rid of it, which could be annoying depending on your selected tool.

Oops! I've filed a bug. This is one of those relatively minor fit & finish details that are hard to catch the first time through. This is not "by design" :)

-if you have too many images open and you click the down arrow then the list xtends to cover that button (which may confuse people when they try to close the list again).

Worth investigating so I've filed a bug. I'm not sure if it's possible to limit the height of the menu so that it can only go as far as the bottom of the monitor, but I'll look into it. This is another fit & finish issue.

-the scrolling buttons are over that transparent gradiant which can make it look like part of the image.

Not sure I agree, but I can at least look into making it more obvious that it is not part of the image.

To be honest I think you need a proper scroll bar, and none of these drop down lists.

I disagree -- a scrollbar would take up too much space, be rather ugly, and I don't believe it would really give you much more navigational cues. Ok that last part isn't necessarily correct: however, I don't believe a scrollbar is the best solution to providing those navigational cues. I still have some aces up my sleeve.

Also I think a right click menu on all the thumbnails of the images would be really useful, giving the user options for closing files, copying them, duplicating them etc etc...

This just isn't there yet :) Not sure yet what any right-click menus will contain, but the interface is getting to the point where I also believe this would be of utility.

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It sounded kinda like you were telling me off. But rest assured I am a changed man!

Also, please do remember to tell me what you like about v3.0's changes and features Smile And why.

I think the color pallette is great. Being able to save a list of colors has been so useful to me since I have been drawing a lot of cartoons recently and I use the same set of colors for certain things. It saves me having to open a previously drawn cartoon everytime to use the color picker to find the hex code of those that I need. I would suggest though that right clicking on a color in the pallete could set the secondary, but other than that its good squishy.

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