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I have learned HTML, but all these random people that critiq my site say, learn xhtml, css, java, and use flash... but thats a lot! what should i do? stick with html? or learn all these things, and yes, i have Macromedia Flash MX...

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ONe good thing is that if i learn css, i could make invisionfree forum skins... but yea... trickman, i have no clue how to use flash lol, i have the whole bundle, flash, freehand, dreamweaver... ect...

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I have learned HTML, but all these random people that critiq my site say, learn xhtml, css, java, and use flash... but thats a lot! what should i do? stick with html? or learn all these things, and yes, i have Macromedia Flash MX...

If you know HTML, XHTML is not a big jump. Basically, it is a combination of XML and HTML... Same elements as HTML, but you need to make sure you follow XML rules like properly nested tags and attributes need to be assigned some value. You can start by going to the W3C Schools site on XHTML: http://www.w3schools.com/xhtml/default.asp.

For CSS, if you are looking for a good book, I recommend Sitepoint's HTML Utopia available here: http://www.sitepoint.com/books/css2/. That is the book I used to learn CSS and it was pretty straight forward and easy to read. One note on CSS, you will need to learn the different quirks between browsers, and this can be a pain to figure out.

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Well, before I wrote my own, I used to use notepad.

But, seriously, if you're going to use FrontPage, you might as well use MS Word. :P

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I use Notepad++. Once you know how to write HTML / CSS yourself, it's so much easier to just write it than to try to trick a program into doing it for you. :wink:

So yeah, definitely learn CSS. The necessity of learning XHTML is debatable, as serving XHTML content as text/html is frowned upon, and serving XHTML with its proper application/xml mime type makes IE freak out...

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Well, before I wrote my own, I used to use notepad.

But, seriously, if you're going to use FrontPage, you might as well use MS Word. :P

Word doesn't really let you manage publication to the website. Plus, erm, it's not even remotely the same man.

I do the Paint.NET website and help files completely in FrontPage.

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I'm just giving you a hard time because I've seen the HTML output generated by both of those programs. They are similarly bloated with unnecessary tags and styles.

Seriously, web pages written in notepad are typically one tenth the download size of those written in Frontpage. And, they don't typically suffer from the "Damn it! Why can't I get it to look the way I want" syndrome.

If you're going to use a WYSIWYG web page editor, I would recommend Microsoft Interdev over Frontpage.

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I use Notepad++. Once you know how to write HTML / CSS yourself, it's so much easier to just write it than to try to trick a program into doing it for you. :wink:

So yeah, definitely learn CSS. The necessity of learning XHTML is debatable, as serving XHTML content as text/html is frowned upon, and serving XHTML with its proper application/xml mime type makes IE freak out...

Ditto. CSS adds a whole new level of capability to your site style.

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Yeah I hate HTML, but rather enjoy laying things out in a WYSIWYG editor. I'm not really all that worried about download size -- the pages are small enough, and I tend to have low sympathy for dial-up users anyway.

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Illnab1024, you should look at the screen shot of the one I wrote.

It has a live preview window at the bottom of the screen that is updated every time you press a key. Also, it has a quick HTML reference in the right side of the screen that is auto updated every time you type a tag (it watches you type). You can highlight some text and press Ctrl-B and it will surround it with Bold tags, etc.

It auto-completes tags for you (which you can turn off, if it drives you nuts). It has built-in page layouts, table formats, etc.

Plus, it is a 64K self-contained file. Oh, and since it is a web page, you can right-click on the menu area and click "view source" and see the entire source code to the editor itself!

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I use Notepad++.

Woot! French Thingy!

I personnally use Notepad2, despites it lack of certain functionalities, I'm fond of the interface (colors, buttons...).

The new MSFT thing which change his name each beta is known to be quite good, and produce valid code.

http://www.glazman.org/weblog/dotclear/ ... b-designer

NVU (ex Netscape / Mozilla Composer) is also known to do good things, but i don't use Wysiwyg myself.

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I have notepad++ and i love it, but for somereason? it does not work anymore :/

And thanks guys! besides the program he wrote, are there anyother FREE WYSWYG programs like frontpage?

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I personally write all my stuff by hand because I'm a geek :lol:

I use PSPad for all my web work, be it (X)HTML, CSS, PHP, Perl etc. It's like Notepad++ but has a built in FTP client so you can edit files whilst they are on the server.

CSS can be a blessing and a curse at the same time. It allows you to do wonderful things but sometimes trying to get cross browser compatibility can drive you mad. Anyway here is something I tossed together for someone using pure CSS - http://carbonize.co.uk/Darren

If you want brilliant (X)HTML/CSS editor and don't mind paying (or being naughty) I recommend TopStyle Pro. TopStyle has the best CSS/HTML editing and support of any program I have tried, and trust me I've tried many. You can actualy download Topstyle lite which is just the CSS editor from TopStyle Pro but is free and actually integrates into programs like PSPad to let you edit your CSS and see what effect the CSS has in a live preview.

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