Initial Impressions

Crazy Man Dan · September 6, 2006

Greetings!

Looking good guys! I've only messed around with it a bit, but the MDI works great, and I've noticed no significant lag on my 32-bit system while working with 6 images open at once, one of which had 20 + layers and two others which were 2500px x 4000px +. Also, it remembers my Layers stack window position and height (major plus there).

A few things I'm wondering about:

1. It doesn't seem to remember my Rulers setting. I turn them on, but each time I restart the program, they're hiding again.

2. Do you guys plan on adding an [x] button to close the current working image? Going all the way over to File is a hassle (I have a widescreen monitor, so it's an even longer trip for me :wink:). I know there's [Ctrl]+[W], but...

That, or perhaps a context menu. Like, you right-click on the image, then you can close it, save it, order a pizza, that kind of thing.

3. It seems very stable under regular use, but I have had one crash. I saw this new MyScript entry in the effects drop-down. Compelled by an uncontrollable primal urge, I clicked it, and was treated to a handy PDN crash log! However, I do realize that this is a very early version, so I don't even know if it's supposed to work yet, so I don't know if posting the log will do anything.

Anyway, it's looking great from here. I'll work with it more in-depth tonight. You know, actually trying to make something, that kind of thing...

Dan

P.S. If MyScript IS supposed to work, and you'd like the crash log, just lemme know.

Rick Brewster · September 6, 2006

"MyScript" sounds like something from CodeLab. There is probably a very small (4-6kb probably) MyScript.dll in your Effects plugin directory. Just nuke it.

Rick Brewster · September 6, 2006

(1) sounds like a simple bug. So hey, I've filed a bug for it!

(2) Yes, I keep wanting to find something like this myself. I also plan on having a little asterisk to indicate images that are 'dirty' (i.e. have unsaved changes)

Oh, and be sure to upgrade to build 2440 with the download link I just posted a few minutes ago

Crazy Man Dan · September 6, 2006

Oh yeah... I remember acidentally clicking the Build DLL button that one time... Forgot about that. Sorry I didn't catch that one myself! :?

A also had another crash messing around in the palette window. I clicked the Save Current Palette button, clicked on the name of a previously saved palette, and phlooy! I haven't been able to recreate the crash, though... The log says:

Application version: Paint.NET v3.0 (Milestone 1 Release build 3.0.2434.40786)
Time of crash: 9/6/2006 4:45:25 PM
Application uptime: 00:13:54.6875000
OS Version: 5.1.2600.131072 Service Pack 2 Workstation x86
.NET Framework version: 2.0.50727.42 x86
Processor: 1x AMD Turion(tm) 64 Mobile Technology ML-40
Physical memory: 1022 MB

Exception details:
System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object.
  at PaintDotNet.SavePaletteDialog.ListBox_SelectedIndexChanged(Object sender, EventArgs e)
  at System.Windows.Forms.ListBox.OnSelectedIndexChanged(EventArgs e)
  at System.Windows.Forms.ListBox.WmReflectCommand(Message& m)
  at System.Windows.Forms.ListBox.WndProc(Message& m)
  at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.OnMessage(Message& m)
  at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.WndProc(Message& m)
  at System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback(IntPtr hWnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wparam, IntPtr lparam)

Rick Brewster · September 6, 2006

Ok thanks, I've filed that as a bug too.

BoltBait · September 6, 2006

Do filters have to be recompiled to work with this build?

I opened an image and ran the TOON filter. Crash.

This text file was created because Paint.NET crashed.
Please e-mail this file to feedback@getpaint.net so we can diagnose and fix the problem.

Application version: Paint.NET v3.0 (Milestone 1 Release build 3.0.2440.21027)
Time of crash: 9/6/2006 4:01:30 PM
Application uptime: 00:02:01.3830120
OS Version: 5.1.2600.131072 Service Pack 2 Workstation x86
.NET Framework version: 2.0.50727.42 x86
Processor: 1x Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1500MHz
Physical memory: 510 MB

Exception details:
System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object.
  at PaintDotNet.Menus.EffectMenuBase.RunEffect(Type effectType)
  at PaintDotNet.Menus.EffectMenuBase.EffectMenuItem_Click(Object sender, EventArgs e)
  at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripItem.RaiseEvent(Object key, EventArgs e)
  at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripMenuItem.OnClick(EventArgs e)
  at PaintDotNet.PdnMenuItem.OnClick(EventArgs e)
  at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripItem.HandleClick(EventArgs e)
  at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripItem.HandleMouseUp(MouseEventArgs e)
  at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripItem.FireEventInteractive(EventArgs e, ToolStripItemEventType met)
  at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripItem.FireEvent(EventArgs e, ToolStripItemEventType met)
  at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStrip.OnMouseUp(MouseEventArgs mea)
  at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripDropDown.OnMouseUp(MouseEventArgs mea)
  at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WmMouseUp(Message& m, MouseButtons button, Int32 clicks)
  at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WndProc(Message& m)
  at System.Windows.Forms.ScrollableControl.WndProc(Message& m)
  at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStrip.WndProc(Message& m)
  at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripDropDown.WndProc(Message& m)
  at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.OnMessage(Message& m)
  at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.WndProc(Message& m)
  at System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback(IntPtr hWnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wparam, IntPtr lparam)
------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Rick Brewster · September 6, 2006

Hmm, that's odd that those plugins aren't working. Are there any that do work? (gradient plugin, etc)

BoltBait · September 6, 2006

Hmm, that's odd that those plugins aren't working. Are there any that do work? (gradient plugin, etc)

I'm not sure. TOON is the only non-standard plugin that I have loaded.

Rick Brewster · September 6, 2006

Ok. Well I've filed a bug to look at it.

For now, try everything else except the toon filter

Crazy Man Dan · September 7, 2006

Arighty, I went through all my filters. Here's the result:

Only four of them broke on me: the Toon, Rect to Polar, Rectangular to Polar Conversion, and Drop Shadow effects.

The funny thing is, if I load the Toon.cs script into Code Lab, the Toon effect works just fine, but if I rebuild the DLL and run that, it breaks. The Log says (probably the same thing as BoltBait:

Application version: Paint.NET v3.0 (Milestone 1 Release build 3.0.2440.21027)
Time of crash: 9/7/2006 11:18:04 AM
Application uptime: 00:00:04.0635660
OS Version: 5.1.2600.131072 Service Pack 2 Workstation x86
.NET Framework version: 2.0.50727.42 x86
Processor: 1x AMD Turion(tm) 64 Mobile Technology ML-40
Physical memory: 1022 MB

Exception details:
System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object.
  at PaintDotNet.Menus.EffectMenuBase.RunEffect(Type effectType)
  at PaintDotNet.Menus.EffectMenuBase.EffectMenuItem_Click(Object sender, EventArgs e)
  at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripItem.RaiseEvent(Object key, EventArgs e)
  at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripMenuItem.OnClick(EventArgs e)
  at PaintDotNet.PdnMenuItem.OnClick(EventArgs e)
  at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripItem.HandleClick(EventArgs e)
  at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripItem.HandleMouseUp(MouseEventArgs e)
  at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripItem.FireEventInteractive(EventArgs e, ToolStripItemEventType met)
  at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripItem.FireEvent(EventArgs e, ToolStripItemEventType met)
  at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStrip.OnMouseUp(MouseEventArgs mea)
  at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripDropDown.OnMouseUp(MouseEventArgs mea)
  at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WmMouseUp(Message& m, MouseButtons button, Int32 clicks)
  at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WndProc(Message& m)
  at System.Windows.Forms.ScrollableControl.WndProc(Message& m)
  at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStrip.WndProc(Message& m)
  at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripDropDown.WndProc(Message& m)
  at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.OnMessage(Message& m)
  at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.WndProc(Message& m)
  at System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback(IntPtr hWnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wparam, IntPtr lparam)

trickman · September 7, 2006

Isn't Rect to Polar and Rectangular to Polar conversion the same thing?

Crazy Man Dan · September 7, 2006

Probably, but they were compiled by different people. You can see, there's one that hads a handy icon included, and one that doesn't. The script behind the scenes is probably very similar, though.

Illnab1024 · September 7, 2006

They probably just don't use code "proper" enough for 3.0 to run it...

Wierd...I thought my effects wouldn't have been organized well enough for that, though....huh...

trickman · September 8, 2006

they might have something in common that 3.0 can't load.

Illnab1024 · September 9, 2006

they might have something in common that 3.0 can't load.

I have been thinking about that, and It cannot be in the main code.

Drop shadow uses an override method in its code, so that cannot be the common factor.

I have been thinking about GUIDs not being used....

Rick Brewster · September 9, 2006

I just have to bring it up in the debugger and check it out. It's probably a very simple fix to be made in the Paint.NET code.

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