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I am an avid science fiction/stargate fan and have watch both stargate sg-1 and stargate atlantis. I must say i am really enjoying the stargate universe series. The concept if fresh and interesting to me.

I just got through catching up on this wonderful series. I watched the episode called light the other day(here is the spoiler part for the sake of discussion)

don't read what's in the hide tags if you haven't seen the episode.

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I had figured out that they were probably not going to die by the sun because it was only the 4th episode in the series, also the ancients made the ship and sent it out unmanned there had to be a way for it to recharge its self

So what is everyone's opinion on this series?

 

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Well, obviously the whole cast isn't going to die in the fourth episode. :-P that would make for a very short series. The really interesting part comes from finding out who dies and how the rest of the cast gets out of the jam.

That said, I had figured out about five minutes into "Light" that

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the ship was going to somehow recharge itself from the sun and keep on going.

My question to everybody who watched the episode is: do you think that Dr. Rush

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really knew what was going on? I don't think so. He seemed just as surprised as everyone else.

 

The Doctor: There was a goblin, or a trickster, or a warrior... A nameless, terrible thing, soaked in the blood of a billion galaxies. The most feared being in all the cosmos. And nothing could stop it, or hold it, or reason with it. One day it would just drop out of the sky and tear down your world.
Amy: But how did it end up in there?
The Doctor: You know fairy tales. A good wizard tricked it.
River Song: I hate good wizards in fairy tales; they always turn out to be him.

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My question to everybody who watched the episode is: do you think that Dr. Rush
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really knew what was going on? I don't think so. He seemed just as surprised as everyone else.

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There may be a back-story that they're planning on getting to later, but right now, knowing what we know, I find it extremely annoying how little they respect Dr. Rush.

When they were running out of oxygen, he figured out that ship dropped out of FTL and dialed a planet because there was something they needed on the planet. He predicted they'd run out of power, they didn't believe him, and then the ship ran out of power. After the ship recharged itself, he figured out the communications system so they could contact the shuttle and get the people back. When they realized the shuttle wouldn't be able to catch up, he suggested a slingshot around the planet, and it worked. After all that, they accuse him of knowing all along that the ship wouldn't be destroyed by the star?

What we have seen of his character up until this point may be a little self-serving - he's a scientist, so he sometimes puts discovery ahead of everything else, like when he dialed the ninth chevron instead of Earth - but they're all painting him out as malicious. I mean, how many times does he have to save their butts before they'll stop thinking he's trying to kill them all the time?

Like I said, maybe there's some history we don't know about, but right now, it's bugging the heck out of me. It's mostly aggravating because I like the character - I've always figured the most awesome thing about space travel would be the new discoveries that could be made, and that's what Rush is all about.

Also, I'm thinking this could get old pretty quickly - this talking in hide tags. Perhaps, since there's already a spoiler warning in the title, we could all agree to talk freely about the show, and if you haven't seen the latest episode yet and end up spoiling something for yourself, it's your own fault. ;)

Unless there's some logistical problem with that of which I'm not aware.

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We'll keep this one a spoiler-free zone. I have an idea. :-)

 

The Doctor: There was a goblin, or a trickster, or a warrior... A nameless, terrible thing, soaked in the blood of a billion galaxies. The most feared being in all the cosmos. And nothing could stop it, or hold it, or reason with it. One day it would just drop out of the sky and tear down your world.
Amy: But how did it end up in there?
The Doctor: You know fairy tales. A good wizard tricked it.
River Song: I hate good wizards in fairy tales; they always turn out to be him.

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Oh boy david's mind is working everyone run! ahhh just kidding david.

I agree on the fact that they are blaming dr. rush too much. One guy can only do so much honestly. As for him knowing that

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the ship was going to recharge itself,
that one is a toss up. I am really interested in seeing if they actually repair the ship and i want to see what is in the rest of the ship as well. That thing is huge and they are only occupying a small portion of it.

 

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Just watched "Earth."

Maybe the fastest 45 minutes of my life.

 

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Amy: But how did it end up in there?
The Doctor: You know fairy tales. A good wizard tricked it.
River Song: I hate good wizards in fairy tales; they always turn out to be him.

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He was getting that way toward the end of SG1, too. He was so used to stickin' it to the man, now...well...he's the man. :-)

 

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Amy: But how did it end up in there?
The Doctor: You know fairy tales. A good wizard tricked it.
River Song: I hate good wizards in fairy tales; they always turn out to be him.

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Well, this is becoming familiar...

I just watched "Time."

Probably the fastest 45 minutes of my life.

 

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Amy: But how did it end up in there?
The Doctor: You know fairy tales. A good wizard tricked it.
River Song: I hate good wizards in fairy tales; they always turn out to be him.

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What? Recycling old concepts how? They have a very unique plot line in this episode.

Let me clarify: this was undoubtedly the best episode of SGU thus far. It started out great, and it's exceeded every episode with the next.

 

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Amy: But how did it end up in there?
The Doctor: You know fairy tales. A good wizard tricked it.
River Song: I hate good wizards in fairy tales; they always turn out to be him.

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i was just stating the old concept of using the stargate for time travel. I am not saying the series is bad i absolutely love the new series but the concept of using the gate for time travel has been done before. Although it hasn't been executed this perfectly before.


had to put it hide tags for spoiler purposes.

 

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True enough, it's been used before, but - from my point of view - not often enough. :-)

EDIT: Also, agreed - this is more polished and perfect than I've ever seen. I really liked the last scene.

 

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Amy: But how did it end up in there?
The Doctor: You know fairy tales. A good wizard tricked it.
River Song: I hate good wizards in fairy tales; they always turn out to be him.

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Yeah i can't wait for the next episode. Its hard to find a series that makes you like that anymore but i can honestly say this is the best stargate series ever

 

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I'm still not ready to dive off that cliff just yet. I like it a lot, and it's certainly my favorite show on tv right now. But dang, SG1 was good.

Don't get me wrong. It certainly could be. It just hasn't been around long enough yet.

 

The Doctor: There was a goblin, or a trickster, or a warrior... A nameless, terrible thing, soaked in the blood of a billion galaxies. The most feared being in all the cosmos. And nothing could stop it, or hold it, or reason with it. One day it would just drop out of the sky and tear down your world.
Amy: But how did it end up in there?
The Doctor: You know fairy tales. A good wizard tricked it.
River Song: I hate good wizards in fairy tales; they always turn out to be him.

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wow the recent episode was pretty good.

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they found out rush lied about something, also young beats up telford thats pretty dang funny. I can't wait to see the next episode... also was cloe banging another dude other than matt?

 

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I just saw "Life," and it was a resounding...meh.

It was really good, don't get me wrong; better than anything else on TV these days. But "Time" set a bar really, really high; a bar that "Life" kind of clipped its head on as it ran underneath.

"Time" is definitely my favorite episode of SGU...and I think it's leaning toward my favorite episode of Stargate, ever.

 

The Doctor: There was a goblin, or a trickster, or a warrior... A nameless, terrible thing, soaked in the blood of a billion galaxies. The most feared being in all the cosmos. And nothing could stop it, or hold it, or reason with it. One day it would just drop out of the sky and tear down your world.
Amy: But how did it end up in there?
The Doctor: You know fairy tales. A good wizard tricked it.
River Song: I hate good wizards in fairy tales; they always turn out to be him.

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Although...it was pretty darn cool to see

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Young beatin' up on Telford.
:-P

 

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Amy: But how did it end up in there?
The Doctor: You know fairy tales. A good wizard tricked it.
River Song: I hate good wizards in fairy tales; they always turn out to be him.

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Although...it was pretty darn cool to see ...

I agree. Time was the best episode of SGU.

But, seriously, I'm done watching that show.

I'm what you'd call a Stargate fan. I own all 10 seasons of SG1, all 5 seasons of SGA, and 3 SG movies on DVD. But, I can't watch (what I call) Stargate: Soap Opera. There's just too much 90210 and not enough sci-fi for my taste. I gave it a fair shake (9 hours of my time), but now I'm done.

If you need me, I'll be watching one of my DVD's. :P

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Although...it was pretty darn cool to see ...

I agree. Time was the best episode of SGU.

But, seriously, I'm done watching that show.

I'm what you'd call a Stargate fan. I own all 10 seasons of SG1, all 5 seasons of SGA, and 3 SG movies on DVD. But, I can't watch (what I call) Stargate: Soap Opera. There's just too much 90210 and not enough sci-fi for my taste. I gave it a fair shake (9 hours of my time), but now I'm done.

If you need me, I'll be watching one of my DVD's. :P

Totally QFT. I'm a massive Stargate fan, but SG1 and Atlantis set a standard that Universe just isn't living up to. I knew this would be the case before the episodes even aired (they way they promoted it like an edgier, darker, younger Stargate), and it's lived down to my expectations.

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I completely disagree with both of you. This is an awesome show, in my opinion. :-)

 

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Amy: But how did it end up in there?
The Doctor: You know fairy tales. A good wizard tricked it.
River Song: I hate good wizards in fairy tales; they always turn out to be him.

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I'd liken it to Star Trek: Voyager - since the scenario has to do with a group of people being stranded a gazillion lightyears away from home, it's naturally going to focus more heavily on the interpersonal dynamics of the group. They're stuck with each other whether they like it or not, and half the fun is watching how any given individual's personality bounces off the rest, and watching as the hierarchy group takes form purely out of necessity.

Whether or not that's your particular cup of tea is up to you. I for one rather liked the Voyager series primarily for the more informal, interpersonal atmosphere, and I quite like this series so far as well.

I am not a mechanism, I am part of the resistance;

I am an organism, an animal, a creature, I am a beast.

~ Becoming the Archetype

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