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As promised I'll try to give some C&C, tips and tricks, on the sigs of this week, I'll see if I'll continue this next week. I'll only do the ones that requested me to do so, if you want me to give a more in-depth look at your sig too, tell me in any way and I'll do it for you! 

 

Maybe some others can add to my remarks below, I think we should give some more C&C on this forum, as it really helps artists IMO and it doesn't happen a lot I guess, in the Galleries people mostly only give compliments, but mostly leave out the more constructive part of looking at art, that's a pity IMO. 

 

The following is all based on my personal experience and preferences, if I say something it doesn't mean it's true, you don't have to listen to my words. Art is subjective, but there certainly are objective things to say about it IMO.

 

     barbieq25

I think the flower is really well 'integrated' in the background, the smoke really helps with that. Furthermore that deep red colour comes out really well. The text, though, spoils a great part of the sig IMO. It's completely apart from the rest of the sig, it's not integrating in any way and that spoils the depth of the sig. You've preserved that deep red colour really well, but it just isn't 'part of' the sig. Furthermore I think it's a bit misplaced in that bottom right corner, try placing it a bit more in the middle, coming out of the center of the flower and integrate it a bit more within the sig, that would do a great job IMO. Also the typography (font and effects) could use some work IMO, that industrial sans serif font doesn't really accentuate the feeling of the rest of the sig, try using a more swirly italic font. 

Also the stripes in the background are a bit too 'prominent' in some places, especially at the right, they are against the flow of the sig there. 

 

 

     rocky532

You're a deserved winner IMO, I think I've the least to say about your sig. You've showed us simplicity isn't only for 'newbies', but also for talented designers. 

I like the choice of colours, they all fit somehow into a colour palette, but maybe the green in the bottom left is a bit 'off', but I would leave it as it is, because the effect it gives is accentuating the whole piece a bit, making it more colourful. 

I think the striped lines DO bind a lot of it together and they give a more 'arty' dimension to it. 

The text is great, the swirly typograhpy is a great choice and the 'grunchy' part also give a new dimension to it, but as it give a bit of a glow, you maybe should display this glow on the background (not to bright etc., but just really subtile), as this is more of a 'vectorish' 2D style, shadows etc. won't be necessary. 

There's nothing really fundamental I've to say about your sig, but maybe you could experiment some with textures in the background, look at BassPixel's Gallery for some GREAT examples of works with a more vectorisch 2D look, but with some textures in it that really accentuate it all. 

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, but maybe you could experiment some with textures in the background, 

 

Wouldn't that defeat the object of the simplicity but eye catching values of the image ?  A background would draw you away from that IMO

 

I'd be interested in C & C on mine ... I was quite proud of this one and would be interested in hearing why it bombed

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Wouldn't that defeat the object of the simplicity but eye catching values of the image ?  A background would draw you away from that IMO

 

Something like a texture doesn't do that always. Indeed, it makes it so that the sig is a bit harder to create, but it doesn't always spoil the purity of a sig, because they can be very subtile, but those little things really could add to a sig. 

 

I'll post some C&C on yours later on, but the key points for me are that it's too plain (it's monochrome, it has no real depth, no real textures, no background) and the text is a bit off (same thing as bbq's, not the best font choice IMO), although the effect isn't that bad by itself. 

Edited by chimay12321

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As you say ... beauty is in the eye of the beholder - I love how the text in BarbieQ's sig is popping out - the shadowing is perfect (for me) as is the font choice and how the text glows against the deep red of the flower

 

... if we were all the same it would be a boring world.  

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Welshy I was really stunned to see that you only got 3 votes! I voted for you. It reminded me of some high class cafes. In fact it reminded me of the wallpaper my brother & I hung in the most expensive restaurant in our city. 

 

I like the way you've used the brushes. I cannot get the hang of them so my hat if off to you :D Black always works for me & the subtle colour is minimalist but enough to keep it classy. The text is a lovely 3D effect & contrasts beautifully with the swirls of the design. I'd love to see this as a bigger work. Monochrome pleases me too. 

 

Chimay, when you do the C & C, would you also post up the sig so we can see it as well as read your comments, please? Just makes it easier to see what we are all on about.

 

I chose that font because the flower is quite smooth in its lines. Also the effect with the glassy or 3D look is often lost with a more "swirly" font. Putting the sig closer to the centre of the flower (actually is is a succulent plant) made it lose some of the clarity. These things are often not seen by the viewer but only by the artist. :D 

 

Rocky, I like all of the elements of your sig too but the lines is actually something that I would have left out. I find it distracting.  :D Now there is no pleasing everyone. On the other hand, the bright simple colours & shapes that seem to be made from tissue paper please my eye very much. 

 

Remember this is how we think as the viewer. It is good to see how others perceive our work. I've had some people think that I feel trapped after viewing some of my works. No, I don't - in fact I feel that I have a great deal of professional, artistic & personal freedom. We see things that resonate or reflect ourselves. This is neither good or bad. It is just so. 

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I'd be interested in C & C on mine ... I was quite proud of this one and would be interested in hearing why it bombed

OK, here goes...

First, let me say I found your entry very detailed and interesting. I'm a big fan of your work!

Your entry really is a thing of beauty. I particularly liked the spiral work. It would have been a very worthy entry in a comp of another theme - which is why I didn't vote for it in this case. The theme was "flowers", and although your entry was very plant-like it did not say "flower" to me. I found it quite dark when the theme suggested (to me) vibrant colors.

Again - I don't wish to diss your entry. I like it. I just felt it was not a great match for this particular theme. Sorry man.

(We're still friends - right? ;) )

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(We're still friends - right? ;) )

 

Did I hear something then ?  I could have sworn I did ... nah couldn't have.  You're dead to me  :user-silhouette:

 

(I would toss my hair but that boat sailed many moons ago)

 

I very rarely do 'bright' ... dark and moody is my ... I'm not sure what word I want ?  Genre ?

 

This is the beauty of C & C ... it's like BarbieQ' says - the artist always sees something different and to hear what others say opens up options otherwise we can get blinkered with our own thoughts

Going back to Rocky's .. I thought the dashed parts were integral.  (You say tomato and I say love apple)

Edited by welshblue

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Chimay, when you do the C & C, would you also post up the sig so we can see it as well as read your comments, please? Just makes it easier to see what we are all on about.

 

I've posted the links to the images :) Just click on the names :)

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@chimay- Thanks for the feedback! I feel like a texture in the background would ruin part of the springy feel of the sig. Like barbieq said, the flowers were supposed to look like tissue paper. If I were to do a ruffled tissue paper texture, the text would appear out of place. That's just my opinion. 

 

@barbieq- Haha, you're certainly right in saying that there's no pleasing everyone. To each his own  ;)

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@ Ella ... I really can't believe your entry into this competition is trailing like that.  What a stunning piece of imagery.  

 

No accounting for things, I guess

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@ Ella ... I really can't believe your entry into this competition is trailing like that.  What a stunning piece of imagery.  

 

No accounting for things, I guess

I can't understand why mine has got the votes it has so far :/

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Thank you Welsh and Helen, it means a lot coming from you :)! I like the signature competition because it is nice to try out some ideas there, as for the votes I usually don´t get upset about that - it is what it is.

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In the comp #101 Comics, can / is stock (clipart / free super hero images) allowed. Personally I would find it hard to hand draw a comic book type person using a mouse. 

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I am a bit confused: do we make a sig in the comic book style or do we need to draw/find a superhero?

 

E.g. does Welshy's entry fit the brief? 

 

Sasha, we did allow stocks/clipart in the last one too but you have to put in links to it to properly reference it. :D

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Barbie and Sasha, you can do anything as long as it's in a comic-book style. No need to draw anything crazy by hand. You can turn your name into a comic-book style image using red and yellow colors or maybe the Halftone plugin. 

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Just wondering because I don't know,I never watched cartoons,even as a kid.  Not trying to be a wise guy, before everyone jumps on me here.

 

 

added; I do watch these new realistic looking movies based on comic book characters but have no clue what the comic book story line is unless someone else who knows is sitting with me. And the only new cartoon movies I will watch are Cars. So as you can see comics are a foreign language to me. 

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Hello, I hope this is the right place to ask this....


 


Are there any rules about who can enter competitions?


Such as no newbies or only masterpieces are aloud to enter?


 


And just wanting to make sure, is the comic theme the current active competition for SOTW?


 


Thanks. :)


Edited by Cc4FuzzyHuggles

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Yep the current sotw is the comic theme (closes Sunday sometime ... have a check) ... and no limits on who enters.  The more new members the better 

 

The only rules are those laid out by the hosts in each competition.  

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